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Re: But it's not the guns

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 9:47 pm
by Doctor Steuss
This video popped up in the "Unexpected" subreddit. It's from 2016, but this is the first time I saw it.

https://www.vox.com/2016/6/16/11954662/ ... y-guns-omg

Cliff Notes: 13-year-old tries to buy various items (beer, cigarettes, nudey mag, lotto ticket, etc.). He's only able to successfully purchase one of the items he tries to... a gun.

Re: But it's not the guns

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:00 am
by canpakes
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Thu May 25, 2023 9:47 pm
This video popped up in the "Unexpected" subreddit. It's from 2016, but this is the first time I saw it.

https://www.vox.com/2016/6/16/11954662/ ... y-guns-omg

Cliff Notes: 13-year-old tries to buy various items (beer, cigarettes, nudey mag, lotto ticket, etc.). He's only able to successfully purchase one of the items he tries to... a gun.
To be fair, once he has the gun, he’ll have a much easier time procuring the other items. : )

Re: But it's not the guns

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:36 pm
by Doctor Steuss
I know that usually the focus is (rightfully) on the racial aspects of police shootings, but as I read the recent story of an 11-year-old shot by police in his own home, it makes me wonder, would this type of thing be less likely if officers didn't have to be paranoid that everyone has a gun? Would it simultaneously be less likely to be brushed away, and there be serious accountability, if that paranoia wasn't a crutch that could be leaned upon?
Murry told CNN that the “irate” father of another of her children arrived at her home at 4 a.m. Saturday.

Concerned about her safety, Murry asked Aderrien to call the police.

Murry said the officer who arrived at the home “had his gun drawn at the front door and asked those inside the home to come outside.” Murry said her son was shot coming around the corner of a hallway, into the living room.

“Once he came from around the corner, he got shot,” Murry said. “I cannot grasp why. The same cop that told him to come out of the house. (Aderrien) did, and he got shot. He kept asking, ‘Why did he shoot me? What did I do wrong?’” she said.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/us/missi ... index.html


ETA: Fixed age. He's 4'10", and the "10" stuck in my head.

Re: But it's not the guns

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 5:15 pm
by Some Schmo
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 2:36 pm
I know that usually the focus is (rightfully) on the racial aspects of police shootings, but as I read the recent story of an 11-year-old shot by police in his own home, it makes me wonder, would this type of thing be less likely if officers didn't have to be paranoid that everyone has a gun? Would it simultaneously be less likely to be brushed away, and there be serious accountability, if that paranoia wasn't a crutch that could be leaned upon?
The problem is that a lot of people suck at their job. It's especially bad if they suck at a job that requires them to carry a gun.

ETA: It seems to me that a lot of self-described "conservatives" in this country live in constant fear, anger and paranoia. These are the last people who should have access to guns, and the ones who want them most. It's screwed up.