ajax18 wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 5:05 pm
Anyone who tries to make anything more out of this is just exploiting the suffering of others for their own advantage. That goes for both progressives and MAGA types.
Do you think she has a strong civil claim for defamation against NBC and a claim against the hospital for suspending her without pay? Would you voter for her to recover anything if you were on the jury or would you say she has no claim?
No on NBC. They reported on a viral video and what it “appeared” to show. The reporting wasn’t false. On the hospital, all I saw was that she was suspended — not that she was suspended without pay. I’d be surprised if the suspension was without pay. However, you right wingers have been passing “right to work” laws left and right for years. The result is at will employment, which allows the employer to suspend or fire an employee for any reason that doesn’t violate non-discrimination or anti-retaliation statutes. So, you don’t have much standing to complain about her employer.
Some PAs in New York are unionized. If she were lucky enough to belong to a union, her employment would be protected by a union contract. Or if she is lucky enough to have some sort of contract that requires “cause” for firing, she may be protected. But if she is like the vast majority of Americans, her employer has the right to suspend or fire her for whatever reason.
Ajax18 wrote:Do you think the African American teens should be charged with attempted robbery or would their claim that they thought they had paid for the bike absolve them of any criminal exposure? I remember Mr. Scratch explained to me that racism and reverse racism should never be on equal footing. Do you also espouse the idea of different set of rules for blacks and whites because of the USA's history and current level of systemic racism?
Intent is an element of the crime of robbery. What the video shows is a dispute over who has paid for the bike rental. That’s not going to establish the necessary intent beyond a reasonable doubt. The race of the young men is irrelevant When it comes to whether there is probable cause to charge them with a crime.
Ajax18 wrote:Let's say the pregnant woman didn't have a receipt or she was just having a case of pregnant brain and mistaken. In your opinion should she have fired? In your opinion should conservative media have been sued for covering the story in error, because white black racism and reverse racism shouldn't be on equal footing?
She hasn’t been fired and I wouldn’t for an employee over this kind of thing. No media should be sued for covering something “in error.” All media make errors. The law of defamation doesn’t vary depending on the race of those involved. I suspect you’ve wildly over generalized whatever Dr. Scratch actually said about reverse discrimination.
Ajax18 wrote:ETA: One more question, if the woman were not white but rather Russian or another European immigrant, would she be judged under the same standard as a descendant of confederates like myself because of our similar level of pigmentation or would she be under a different standard because of her heritage? What if the woman were of mixed race, what set of rules should then be applied to her in this case?
I don’t understand what you are babbling about here. If you are talking about how she would be judged under the law, her race or cultural heritage doesn’t matter. If you mean judged in the court of public opinion, who knows?
The video obviously doesn’t tell the whole story. This is a disagreement that should have been resolved by comparing the rental confirmation on both phones. That may have happened, as at the beginning of the video, she is in possession of the black man’s phone. Why did he give it to her, if not to show confirmation? Why don’t we see her showing him the receipt on her phone? Why did this interaction escalate the way it did? We just don’t know.