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Trump and company are not being charged for bringing legal challenges. They are being charged for going outside the legal process: pressuring state governments to "come up with" more votes, assembling slates of fraudulent electors to replace those required by state law, and pressuring Congress and the vice-president to accept those electors as if they were legal.
Dershowitz guaranteed that Gore and his staff said similar things to the Florida state government. The alternate slate of electors is not unique to Trump. Democrats have done this in the past. You should listen to his interview with Glenn Beck. Don't take my word for it.

The dupes responsible for our current economy are all on your side of the aisle. Inventing alternate reasons to deflect blame and denying the historical failures of communism hasn't changed the results we're seeing right now. Now it looks like you're going to bring back the economy killing COVID communism based on the liberal view that any economic loss is worth the cost of one life. That's right, global lockdowns,mask mandates, vax mandates, $2 trillion deficits and whatever it takes to save the 0.04% of the population who died from COVID>
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:20 pm
They are being charged for going outside the legal process: pressuring state governments to "come up with" more votes
But aren't they allowed to do that because of Hunter Biden?
Hunter Biden, Benghazi, and Tippecanoe. They rob MAGAs of their precious bodily freedom fluids.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:06 pm
Trump and company are not being charged for bringing legal challenges. They are being charged for going outside the legal process: pressuring state governments to "come up with" more votes, assembling slates of fraudulent electors to replace those required by state law, and pressuring Congress and the vice-president to accept those electors as if they were legal.
Dershowitz guaranteed that Gore and his staff said similar things to the Florida state government. The alternate slate of electors is not unique to Trump. Democrats have done this in the past. You should listen to his interview with Glenn Beck. Don't take my word for it.
Gore conceded right before the Electoral College certified GW Bush the winner. The Electoral College certified Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential election on December 14th, 2020. Trump's phone call to Georgia's Secretary of State was on January 2nd after Biden was certified the winner of Georgia by that state's 16 electors on December 14th.

Back in 1960, Hawaii did submit two slates of electors. But there were a few big differences between the 1960 Hawaii alternative slate of electors and the 2020 Georgia Trump electors. Link
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Brack wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:14 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:06 pm
Dershowitz guaranteed that Gore and his staff said similar things to the Florida state government. The alternate slate of electors is not unique to Trump. Democrats have done this in the past. You should listen to his interview with Glenn Beck. Don't take my word for it.
Gore conceded right before the Electoral College certified GW Bush the winner. The Electoral College certified Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential election on December 14th, 2020. Trump's phone call to Georgia's Secretary of State was on January 2nd after Biden was certified the winner of Georgia by that state's 16 electors on December 14th.

Back in 1960, Hawaii did submit two slates of electors. But there were a few big differences between the 1960 Hawaii alternative slate of electors and the 2020 Georgia Trump electors. Link
Well that's a reasonable reply. I appreciate your input. I'm not saying I agree with it but it's a worthwhile contribution as opposed to leftwing columnist who just pretend anything they don't like is misinformation and put a bogus partisan fact check claim on it.

None of it changes the fact that leftwing open borders, scamdemic policies, and Bidennomics have ruined the country.
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Well that's a reasonable reply.
Absolutely. And undeserved:
The dupes responsible for our current economy are all on your side of the aisle. Inventing alternate reasons to deflect blame and denying the historical failures of communism hasn't changed the results we're seeing right now
saying it doesn't make it true. You're persistently the least informed person on this forum. And that's intentional, on your part. Which is why people really shouldn't respond with reasonable replies to you.
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Gadianton wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:46 pm
Well that's a reasonable reply.
Absolutely. And undeserved:
The dupes responsible for our current economy are all on your side of the aisle. Inventing alternate reasons to deflect blame and denying the historical failures of communism hasn't changed the results we're seeing right now
saying it doesn't make it true. You're persistently the least informed person on this forum. And that's intentional, on your part. Which is why people really shouldn't respond with reasonable replies to you.
Congratulations on surviving the scamdemic Gad. I know you thought you were a goner prior to Omicron. But those of us who listened to the experts, got vaccinated, masked up, got different work from home jobs, practiced socialist distancing, and hearkened to the advice of the experts survived and never got infected by COVID because of their righteous adherence to the dictates of the experts in the deep state. Fools like Ajax, actually contended in March 2020 that we'd likely all test positive for COVID at some point. I hope you're enjoying Bidenomics and the administrations historic progressive economic accomplishments have brought equal savings and prosperity over the past four years.

It looks like the new variant of COVID is arriving just in time to reimpose mask mandates and strip voting privileges from the unvaxed (I guess some did survive after all) Poor President Biden will have no choice but to campaign from his basement. And we'll absolutely have to have mail in voting in light of the deadly pandemic that might rage through the land. This is an emergency. Darn bats.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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