True Crime: Holy cats this youtuber is LDS related

[Res Ipsa]

Props to you, Jersey Girl. You called it. The True Crime podcasters and the former Mormon podcasters started comparing notes, and what they’ve figured out is amazing and disgusting.

Jodi Hildebrandt, Maurice Harker, Tim Ballard, LifeStar — they all trace back to EternalCore — an organization dedicated to putting God in therapy. There are videos of at least of its conferences. And they are jaw dropping.

And the founder of Eternal Core? He is the subject of Lori Vallow’s favorite book — a book that Chad Daybell talked about at the conference where they met.

The book is Visions of Glory. It’s about a man who claims to have had three NDEs, which opened up an ability to access the spirit world. He could know everything about a person just by looking at them. People’s personal objects, like a hairbrush or an ottoman would talk to him and reveal everything about their owners. Often what he learned about involved sex.

He could travel out of his body with spirit guides. He could see the spirits of the 1/3 of pre-mortal spirits that followed Satan in the LDS war in heaven. In one of his out of body experiences, he watched someone access porn on the internet. He saw the evil spirits crowd around, trying to enter his body so they could feel what he was feeling. Whipped up to a frenzy, the spirits were able to enter his body through an opening in the crown of the man’s head.

In another, he went into a bar where people were dancing. He knew their thoughts, which were all about depraved sex. Same description of spirits fighting to get inside peoples heads. Some got in. They followed people home.

The book contains a detailed visions of the end times. In the vision he was a translated being — one of the 144,000 — gathering the saints to Zion in the post tribulation world. These beings would develop God-like powers. They could tell at a glance which people were too far gone in sin to repent, and would kill then lest they add to their ledger of sin.

Translated beings. Like Lori and Chad.

The man with the visions started telling people in his ward about his visions. Neal A Maxwell was in his ward, and told him that his visions were highly personal and that he should not try to interpret them or tell others about them. But he didn’t listen. He found a kindred spirit, who wrote Visions of Glory, telling the man’s story using a pseudonym.

The man began telling his story at fireside, saying that he was the subject of the book. There’s a recording of one such fireside. That got him hauled in for church discipline. But no action was taken after he wrote a letter claiming the author (who had died of cancer) had ignored the edits he had sent him and backing away from claiming the events in the book were real.

He stopped talking publicly about his visions. And he was made a Bishop. And, as a licensed therapist, he got up on a stage and said that the dead relatives of his patients would appear to him and tell him how to treat the patient. He “cured” a friend of intrusive sexual thoughts by suggesting that God put them there to prepare him for a calling that involved youth and social media. And on and on.

Tim Ballard described him as a”brain specialist “ that OUR hired to help fix the psychological trauma of the child trafficking victims he rescued. And, today, the church uses him as the consultant to evaluate whether young people with mental health issues are fit to serve a mission. And his book is wildly popular among Mormon preppers who fill online boards with shared stories of visions, NDE’s and elaborate attempts to discover hidden clues to the end times.

There is a diagnosis for people who claim that inanimate objects talk to them: schizophrenia. How in the world did this man practice as a licensed therapist, become a bishop, become a consultant for treating trafficking victims, and the go to guy for evaluating the mental health of prospective missionaries? And how much influence did he have in creating the phony LDS financed “sex addiction” therapy industry.

That’s just a sketch of the eight hours of the joint podcast I linked above. This rash of seemingly unconnected crimes is the fruits of a sick subculture within Mormondom. And the church leaders have paid to support it and turned a blind eye toward the insanity.

Watch it all Jersey Girl. It’s everything you predicted. And more.

[Jersey Girl]

Watch the one you linked to just before this post? I saw the link but I've been so crazy busy I haven't watched it yet. I did see a video pass by my face that linked all of those together...Jodi, Ruby, Chad/Lori, and whoever Ballard is. I didn't watch that either. Maybe it's the one you linked to. Either that or someone else is making the same connections.

I mean connexions.

I think on account of all the planes crossing in youtube land, there's no putting the story/toothpaste back in the tube. That's what I saw starting to happen as I commented on this case. I think I mentioned that Dad Challenge Podcast was informed re: LDS Church. It's because he hosts a husband/wife ex-LDS couple on his channel from time to time. I haven't looked to see if they've covered it.

Yeah, so true crime, victim's advocates, child advocates, psychologists, body language folk, the freaking drama community, and of course LDS related channels are all over this case. At least the ones on my radar. From time to time you'd hear a channel refer to the LDS Church as weird or strange. Now they're straight up calling it a cult and saying this case revealed a cult within a cult.

One thing I really appreciated when I was following this regularly was that Dehlin got some good exposure and apparently people have learned from it. He's the only one who had the LDS take on the case and that was the missing piece for the various channels to make sense of what they were seeing in the case. Nothing adds up until you plug in the LDS influences.

Wonder how the LDS Church will deal with all of this?

No one should write off youtube channels from any of the above "genre". I think I said in the thread that Red, White and Bethune are responsible for determining the location of Gabby Petito's remains.

I haven't been watching true crime. I haven't even watched Harloween. Like I said, super busy here.

So the one you linked to above? I'll have to watch it in pieces though. Will comment when I'm done.

[Res Ipsa]

Yes. The one I linked two posts ago. That’s part one. There’s a link to part 2 in the description. I recommend watching in chunks, because there’s lots to take in.

[Jersey Girl]

Yes. The one I linked two posts ago. That’s part one. There’s a link to part 2 in the description. I recommend watching in chunks, because there’s lots to take in.

Okay got it. I did look at it and saw the part 2. It's going to take me a while. Thanks for the recommend!

[Res Ipsa]

Here is a link to Thom Harrison's Linkedin Page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thom-harrison-28708117

Here is an audiobook of Visions of Glory (free): https://hqaudiobooks.com/john-pontius-v ... audiobook/

Read his credentials, listen to his visions, and ask yourself how this guy was let near abused and traumatized children.

[Jersey Girl]

I'm watching this joint Mormon Discussions/True Hidden Crime video that places Jodi Hildebrandt, Daybell/Vallow, Tim Ballard and others into the same Mormon subculture. So far, it's pretty darn fascinating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eyqYLlGwBk

The planes have well and truly crossed.

[Jersey Girl]

@lilfiery0ne
@lilfiery0ne
2 days ago
I don't think most people realize this, but this connection you discovered Lauren.. ITS A REALLY BIG DEAL and we don't even know how much of a big deal it is yet.... this connection is so obscure and so hidden and so nuanced, most other news journalist i think would have missed it, would have overlooked it and discounted it ... but you didn't and that's A BIG DEAL TOO!!! This was an awesome awesome show!

Yep.

[Jersey Girl]

Question and comment about the MSP lengthy 2 pt live stream.

1. Why were they all so focused on prepping for the tribulation? I thought LDS believe in the pre-tribulation rapture?

2. I've often mentioned an LDS lady friend of mine who passed away in 2012. What are the chances these Visions of Glory type theories happened before the book was ever written? The reason I ask is because my friend mentioned a group of fellow/sister ward members who often met in the hallways during services to talk about weird stuff they shouldn't be talking about. I never forgot what she told me but I didn't ask her for details. What do you guys think about that? Any idea if there could possibly be a connection to all this Visions of Glory stuff? It could have simply been apostate type talk she overhead.

by the way, I'm only into the second part about an hour in. It's fascinating. I also think my brain is rotting from the dark content. Then again I might be about to squirt out a demon through the crack in my head.

If you know, you know.

[Moksha]

In another, he went into a bar where people were dancing. He knew their thoughts, which were all about depraved sex. Same description of spirits fighting to get inside peoples heads. Some got in. They followed people home.

With a fully functional E-meter, these Mormon therapists and visionaries can audit these body thetans out of LDS heads and back into the atomic volcanoes where they belong!!!

[Res Ipsa]

Question and comment about the MSP lengthy 2 pt live stream.

1. Why were they all so focused on prepping for the tribulation? I thought LDS believe in the pre-tribulation rapture?

2. I've often mentioned an LDS lady friend of mine who passed away in 2012. What are the chances these Visions of Glory type theories happened before the book was ever written? The reason I ask is because my friend mentioned a group of fellow/sister ward members who often met in the hallways during services to talk about weird stuff they shouldn't be talking about. I never forgot what she told me but I didn't ask her for details. What do you guys think about that? Any idea if there could possibly be a connection to all this Visions of Glory stuff? It could have simply been apostate type talk she overhead.

by the way, I'm only into the second part about an hour in. It's fascinating. I also think my brain is rotting from the dark content. Then again I might be about to squirt out a demon through the crack in my head.

If you know, you know.

1. I don't think LDS theology includes the rapture at all.

2. Yes. There were always LDS folks who were into deciphering the "mysteries."