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Moksha wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:03 am

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:45 am

Not crime. Sin.

Is anyone aware of a person who has successfully sued a porn therapist for professional malpractice? That would be a good thing to know.

Thanks for clarifying that sin part. ByTW, if you combined coffee with masturbation would you have a sin greater than murder?

Perhaps such a class action suit would be groundbreaking. The LDS conception of porn and masturbation seems out of touch with humanity since the end of the Victorian era.

I can’t recall whether sons are measured on a linear or exponential scale.

I found one reference to a case where a couple sued after selling marital therapy and being shuffled sex addiction therapy, but no citation or links. Given that neither porn nor mastication addiction is a recognized diagnosis, I’m guessing that all these LDS oriented sex addiction therapists are vulnerable to malpractice suits.

Here’s another LDS therapist Horror story: https://www.propublica.org/article/utah ... bused-them

I’m less than impressed with the oversight provided by the Utah licensing agency. Unleash the plaintiffs bar!!

This is less than 10 minutes. MSP.

Court Order to Remove Adam Steed Interview & Call for Stories: 8 Passenger's Jodi Hildebrandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogKZ4tMWZwU

What's next? Jessi's interview? Stay tuned. I don't know what this means to the youtubers who clipped the Steed interview as well as Jessi's.

I'll check Adam's Facebook page later to see if he's got something to say about this.

This is what I think I do know. If the church took out the restraining order on the interview in question, they made a galactic mistake PR wise. And...good luck with that.

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:08 pm

This is less than 10 minutes. MSP.

Court Order to Remove Adam Steed Interview & Call for Stories: 8 Passenger's Jodi Hildebrandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogKZ4tMWZwU

What's next? Jessi's interview? Stay tuned. I don't know what this means to the youtubers who clipped the Steed interview as well as Jessi's.

I'll check Adam's Facebook page later to see if he's got something to say about this.

This is what I think I do know. If the church took out the restraining order on the interview in question, they made a galactic mistake PR wise. And...good luck with that.

We will know soon enough.

ETA: Reddit says that Adam indicated on Instagram that it was his ex wife. That’s plausible if what he said violates something in their divorce settlement.

Also plausible that it’s a party to his sex abuse settlement.

As MS is in Utah, look for a Utah case with Steed as a party and a TRO issued in the last few days.

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:07 pm

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:08 pm

This is less than 10 minutes. MSP.

Court Order to Remove Adam Steed Interview & Call for Stories: 8 Passenger's Jodi Hildebrandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogKZ4tMWZwU

What's next? Jessi's interview? Stay tuned. I don't know what this means to the youtubers who clipped the Steed interview as well as Jessi's.

I'll check Adam's Facebook page later to see if he's got something to say about this.

This is what I think I do know. If the church took out the restraining order on the interview in question, they made a galactic mistake PR wise. And...good luck with that.

We will know soon enough.

ETA: Reddit says that Adam indicated on Instagram that it was his ex wife. That’s plausible if what he said violates something in their divorce settlement.

Also plausible that it’s a party to his sex abuse settlement.

As MS is in Utah, look for a Utah case with Steed as a party and a TRO issued in the last few days.

I didn't even consider the ex-wife. I'm now thinking there won't be any mention of this on his Facebook page. Checked there just now--nothing.

But did you watch that MS I linked? John Dehlin is calling for more victims to come forward. It's almost like he's saying...delete the Adam Paul Steed interview? No probs...consider it done. Now hold my beer. None of this seems to scare him. So yeah, we'll know something eventually here.

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:09 pm

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:07 pm

We will know soon enough.

ETA: Reddit says that Adam indicated on Instagram that it was his ex wife. That’s plausible if what he said violates something in their divorce settlement.

Also plausible that it’s a party to his sex abuse settlement.

As MS is in Utah, look for a Utah case with Steed as a party and a TRO issued in the last few days.

I didn't even consider the ex-wife. I'm now thinking there won't be any mention of this on his Facebook page. Checked there just now--nothing.

But did you watch that MS I linked? John Dehlin is calling for more victims to come forward. It's almost like he's saying...delete the Adam Paul Steed interview? No probs...consider it done. Now hold my beer. None of this seems to scare him. So yeah, we'll know something eventually here.

Temporary Restraining Order. Whichever judge issued the order has scheduled a hearing, at which MS can appear to fight the injunction. There are first amendment issues at play, and I came away thinking MS is gearing up to fight.

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:07 pm

As MS is in Utah, look for a Utah case with Steed as a party and a TRO issued in the last few days.

Do you think we would find Kirton McConkie on the other end of this restraining order?

Moksha wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:40 pm

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:07 pm

As MS is in Utah, look for a Utah case with Steed as a party and a TRO issued in the last few days.

Do you think we would find Kirton McConkie on the other end of this restraining order?

Based on the second and third hand information I’ve seen, I’d say no, unless they represented the ex wife in the divorce. We’ll know soon.

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:37 pm

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:09 pm

I didn't even consider the ex-wife. I'm now thinking there won't be any mention of this on his Facebook page. Checked there just now--nothing.

But did you watch that MS I linked? John Dehlin is calling for more victims to come forward. It's almost like he's saying...delete the Adam Paul Steed interview? No probs...consider it done. Now hold my beer. None of this seems to scare him. So yeah, we'll know something eventually here.

Temporary Restraining Order. Whichever judge issued the order has scheduled a hearing, at which MS can appear to fight the injunction. There are first amendment issues at play, and I came away thinking MS is gearing up to fight.

Gearing up to fight for sure. That's exactly how I took it. A kind of rearing back and then a powerful ...Oh yeah?

I'm assuming he had to private the video so it's still there and can be put up if the opportunity arises. He did the lengthiest, carefully managed, and most detailed interview with Mr. Steed (and Jessi) of anyone else in all of youtube.

I think I said this before on this thread. I don't care about the accusations regarding his previous missteps that they criticize him for in Terrestrial. People do what they do and hopefully learn and grow from it. What he's doing with this case in particular is invaluable to LDS, ex-LDS, Nevers, and victims everywhere.

The True Crime folks are following the case so of course they have seen the MSP interviews and from what I can tell, it's been an eye opener to Nevers in particular who only had a cursory knowledge of the church, culture, and religion. Now they are seeing an incestuous relationship between Jodi and the church, and with evidence no less. I mean, she even accessed BYU in the case of Adam.

I knew this was going to be massive but it's intriguing to watch it all play out and this is only the beginning. I find myself having a heart (and praying) for Chapel Mormons who couldn't possibly have fathomed what has gone on in their church.

Psychology in Seattle channel again. He's going through MSP now. This channel has nearly half a million subs. That's what I meant when I mentioned the story re: LDS church is now being discovered by Nevers because the youtube planes have well and truly crossed.

Ruby Franke & Jodi Hildebrandt #7 - (Therapist Reacts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o62ZgW-ZkmQ

I watched a video by Annie Elise in which she played lots of videos of Jodi. She really formed a Mormon spin-off matriarchal cult. I wouldn’t be surprised to see her ex’d for apostasy.