Trump, Biden, RFKjr, and Beyond

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Tell me Bill, when Trump takes back the helm and deports illegals working agriculture and meat processing jobs by the millions, thereby making Ajax happy, will that lower the price of groceries for American families?
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:57 pm
Kennedy is claiming that under DNC rule changes, if he campaigns in Iowa or New Hampshire, any votes he gets there will automatically go to Biden. That and the superdelegates make it impossible for him to even challenge Biden. So, while he isn't technically shut out, he can't win if he rises in the polling, effectively shutting him out.
Dr Exiled, puzzled by the claim I did a bit of looking about. I have not become an expert but what I saw was sources inclined to be against Biden were happy to repeat JFK jr claims. Other sources did not accept his accusations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... y-primary/

I am willing to keep some open mind but I so far am getting the smell of crackpot claims made by a person not to be trusted.
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huckelberry wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2023 6:01 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:57 pm



Kennedy is claiming that under DNC rule changes, if he campaigns in Iowa or New Hampshire, any votes he gets there will automatically go to Biden. That and the superdelegates make it impossible for him to even challenge Biden. So, while he isn't technically shut out, he can't win if he rises in the polling, effectively shutting him out.

Dr Exiled, puzzled by the claim I did a bit of looking about. I have not become an expert but what I saw was sources inclined to be against Biden were happy to repeat JFK jr claims. Other sources did not accept his accusations.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... y-primary/

I am willing to keep some open mind but I so far am getting the smell of crackpot claims made by a person not to be trusted.
Perhaps actually examine the claims instead of superficially looking at what cheerleading section supports what? This is a pet peeve of mine - our politics have devolved into more team v. team instead of focusing on issues.

The WP article you cite supports the main contention of Kennedy, that of forcing S. Carolina to be the first primary. This clearly benefits Biden, perhaps giving the alzheimer's patient some momentum should Kennedy close the gap. I think Kennedy has a right to complain about this as he has a better chance gaining momentum in Iowa and New Hamshire. The Biden loving DNC knows this and made the change. Further, the WP article acknowledges that the DNC chair has the power to disqualify New Hampshire and Iowa delegates should these States disobey their master and have their primary/caucus prior to S. Carolina. The Georgia claim remains to be decided as the Georgia rules are still in draft form and can still be changed. Also, the WP writer didn't give a link to the DNC Chair letter to the Kennedy campaign and so we are unfortunately put in a position to trust the guy. Why not disclose the letter? The claim that Kennedy misread a typo doesn't make any sense when reading the actual rules and the proposed Georgia rules. Perhaps the DNC Chair letter would shed more light in this? It would have been nice for the WP to include the letter.

Here are the draft Georgia rules: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1588ZAG ... tR7aU/view
Here are the DNC rules: https://democrats.org/wp-content/upload ... -Rules.pdf
Here is what the Kennedy campaign is actually saying about the issue: https://www.kennedy24.com/press
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Trump said last night that Biden would lead us into World War 2.
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Vēritās wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:31 pm
JFKJr thinks 5G Wi-Fi literally melts our brains.
So is it true that Biden will lead us into WWII?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:02 pm
Trump said last night that Biden would lead us into World War 2.
He really said World War 2 (Two)? Not three?

Frankly, given Trump's profound and confident ignorance, I should not be at all surprised if he did say that, and meant what he said.

But please give a link ...
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Oh my goodness!

Here is Trump on stage, and he is saying "World War 2".

https://Twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status ... 03354?s=20

And this is the man who tells people that Biden is mentally impaired?
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Chap wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:46 am
Oh my goodness!

Here is Trump on stage, and he is saying "World War 2".

https://Twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status ... 03354?s=20

And this is the man who tells people that Biden is mentally impaired?
It truly sounded like Trump was describing himself.
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Chap wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:46 am
Oh my goodness!

Here is Trump on stage, and he is saying "World War 2".

https://Twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status ... 03354?s=20

And this is the man who tells people that Biden is mentally impaired?
Yeah, it’s bad. We’re a gnat’s ass away from having a President who is either demented or suffering from dementia.

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The purpose of primaries is for the party to bring forward from its ranks the candidate that will have the best chance of winning the election. As the very successful and well proven incumbent, President Biden is that person for the Dems. I really have no problem with the party with a successful incumbent choosing to stick with that candidate and forego the primary process.
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