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President Joe Biden honoring veterans on Veterans Day:
To all our veterans, past and present, we thank you, we honor you, and we remember always what you’ve done for us.

I’d like to recognize one of our national heroes who is here today: Medal of Honor recipient, Mr. Brian Thacker. During the Vietnam War, then-First Lieutenant Thacker put the safety of his fellow troops above his own, providing cover fire against an attacking enemy, and even calling in artillery fire on his own position so our forces had a better chance to withdraw.

Wounded, unable to leave the area, he evaded capture for eight days until finally federal — friendly forces retook the position. Yours is a remarkable story; it will never be forgotten.

And we’ll also never forget the stories of American leaders and icons we’ve lost recently who shaped our nation in ways that are hard to measure.

I’ve lost, like many of you, three good friends in the last month:

General Colin Powell, a child of immigrants, who grew up to be the joint — Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of State. A man who was a friend but who earned the universal respect of the Americans and people for his leadership in uniform and out.

And a guy who became good friends in many times I was in and out of Iraq as a Vice President and a senator — General Ray Odierno, who I met multiple times in Iraq, and who did so much to help get us to where we are today and who always put the troops and its veterans first. It was an honor to have my son, Major Biden, serve under his command at the time.

And my friend and colleague — who was mentioned already — the United States Senator, Max Cleland, who, as a triple amputee, knew the cost of war as well as anyone could ever know it and went on to champion the dignity and care of America’s wounded veterans throughout his life.

We lost all three of these incredible veterans in the last several weeks, and our hearts go out to their families.

These are stories that inspire generation after generation of Americans to step forward to defend our nation.

And, today, we pay homage to the unrelenting bravery and dedication that distinguish all those who have earned the title of “American veteran.”

It’s an honor that not only a small percentage of Americans can claim, and one that marks those who are able to claim it as brothers and sisters. It’s a badge of courage that unites across all ages, regardless of background — because to be a veteran is to have endured and survived challenges most Americans will never know.

You’ve come through the trials and testing, braved dangers and deprivations, faced down the tragic realities of war and death.

And you’ve done it for us. You’ve done it for America — to defend and serve American values, to protect our country and our Constitution against all enemies, and to lay a stronger, more secure foundation on which future generations can continue to build a more perfect union.

Each of our veterans is a link in a proud chain of patriots that has stood in the defense of our country from Bunker Hill to Belleau Woods, Gettysburg to Iwo Jima, the Chosin Reservoir to the Kunar Valley.

Each — each understood the price of freedom, and each shouldered that burden on our behalf.

Our veterans represent the best of America. You are the very spine of America, not just the backbone. You’re the spine of this country. And all of us — all of us — owe you.

And so, on Veterans Day and every day, we honor that great debt and recommit ourselves to keeping our sacred obligation as a nation to honor what you’ve done.

We have many obligations to our children, to our elderly, to those truly in need. But I’ve gotten in trouble way back when I was a young senator for saying we only have one truly sacred obligation. We have many obligations but one truly sacred obligation: to properly prepare those and equip those who we send into harm’s way and care for them and their families while they’re both deployed and when they return home. This is a lifetime sacred commitment. It never expires.

And for me and for Jill and for the entire Biden family: It’s personal.

When Beau was deployed to Iraq, after spending six months in Kosovo as an Assistant U.S. Attorney trying to help — he was trying to set up a criminal justice system, I got a call from him one day. He said, “Dad, what are you doing Friday?” And I said, “What do you need, hon? I’m — what do you need?” He said, “I’d like you to pin my bars on.” I said, “What in the heck have you done?” He said, “Someone’s got to finish these wars, dad.” True story.

Jill and I learned what it meant to pray every day for the safe return of someone you love. So many of you have done that.

Our grandkids learned what it meant to have their dad overseas in a warzone instead of back at home, for a year, tucking them into bed and reading that story every night. Thousands of Americans — tens of thousands have had that experience.

As the English poet John Milton wrote, “They also serve who only stand and wait.”

So, to all the mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, spouses — all those who stand alongside our veterans — and their families, caregivers, survivors: You are the solid steel spine that bears up under every burden, the courageous heart that rises to every challenge.

We’ve asked so much of you for so long, and our nation is grateful.

For two decades, the lives of our service members and their families and veterans have been shaped by the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Since 9/11, hundreds of thousands of Americans have served. So many are still serving today in harm’s way, and we cannot forget them.

The American people are forever grateful and in awe of what you’ve accomplished.

But in fulfilling their mission, so many veterans and their families and caregivers have been through hell. Some facing deployments after deployment, spending months and years away from their families, missing birthdays, the anniversaries, and collections [celebrations].

I remember one of the last times I flew into Iraq, in the so-called “Silver Bullet.” I remember walking up to the cockpit. And the crewmasters along with the pilots were up there, and I said, “How many of you is this your first tour?” No one raised their hand. There were five people. “Second tour?” No one raised their hand. “Third tour?” Two raised their hand. “Fourth tour?” Two raised their hand. “Fifth?” One raised their hand.

Folks, on Veterans Day we have to always remember that there’s nothing low-risk or low-cost about war for the women and men who fight it.

I carry with me, in my pocket, every single day — I have my staff check with the Defense Department — on the back of my schedule I have U.S. daily troops in Afghanistan, killed and wounded; U.S. daily troops in Iraq, killed and wounded.

52,323 [53,323] — not “roughly 53,000” — every one of these individuals has a family, has a unit at home. 53,323 American servicemen and women wounded in the conflicts of Iraq and Afghanistan; 7,074 gave their lives — the last full measure of their devotion.

Untold thousands more returned home — as our Secretary can tell you — with unseen psychological wounds of war, the enduring grief borne by our Gold Star families.

These are the costs of war that they’ll carry — we’ll carry as a nation for decades to come.

And to all veterans, service members, their families, caregivers, survivors: I want you to know that our administration is going to meet the sacred obligation that we owe you.

We’re going to work with Congress — Republicans and Democrats together — to make sure our veterans receive the world-class benefits that they’ve earned, and meet the sacred — the specific care — specific needs that they each individually need.

That means expanding presumptive conditions for toxic exposure and particulate matter, including Agent Orange and burn pits.

We’re going to keep pushing on this front to be more nimble and responsive. We’re reviewing all the data and evidence to determine additional presumptive conditions that make sure our veterans don’t have to wait to get the care they need.

It also means prioritizing mental health care that is necessary to treat the invisible wounds that so many of our veterans carry, including pursuing our newly released comprehensive public health strategy to reduce military and veteran suicides.

I want to say clearly to all our veterans: If you’re struggling — you’re so used to never asking for anything. If you’re struggling, reach out. Call the Veterans Crisis Line.

If you’re having trouble thinking about things, it’s no different than if you had a wound in your arm.

And mak- — it’s also making sure that the growing population of women and LGBTQ+ veterans receive appropriate services and support.

And as we continue our efforts to defeat the pandemic and build back better, it means keeping the needs of veterans front and center.

The American Rescue Plan included $17 billion to support VA’s COVID-19 response, to get vaccination — vaccine shots in arms as fast as possible, and to fund programs that provide rapid retraining assistance for veterans who may have lost their jobs in the pandemic, housing assistance, debt forgiveness, and to invest in improving VA facilities and the living conditions of vulnerable veterans.

Through Jill’s work of Joining Forces, we’re also working to support our veterans and military families, survivors, and caregivers so they can have what they need to thrive. They deserve it.

As Secretary McDonough noted, this Veterans Day also marks the centennial of one of our most hallowed American monuments:

the Tomb of the Unknowns.

A hundred years ago today, an American soldier of the first World War — as the tomb says, “known but to God,” end of quote — completed the voyage from an unidentified battlefield in France, over the rough Atlantic seas, here to Arlington National Cemetery.

He lay in state under the Capitol Rotunda for two days on the same plinth that held the body of Lincoln, as 90,000 Americans came to pay respects.

On the final leg of his journey, he was escorted from the Capitol by the President of the United States, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, members of Congress, General Pershing, and the Chiefs of Staff — Medal of Honor recipients all walking, as the Washington Post said, processing “without parallel” to give honor due to American service mem- — American service members — not just the anonymous soul today entombed in gleaming marble, but the generations of Americans who dared all, risked all, gave all for the cause of freedom.

To commemorate, in the wounds of the member — in the words of a member of Congress who proposed the legislation creating the memorial, an American warrior who, quote — and this is the quote — who “typifies…the soul of America.” You veterans are the soul of America. America’s soul.

It’s why our veterans have always fought, always been willing to put themselves on the line. That the first unknown lies now with his brethren — unnamed warriors from later wars.

Fellow patriots who picked up the mantle of honor and made it their burden.

And today, 100 years later, we keep a sacred watch over their graves. Generations of elite sentinels have taken the post, pledging their “eternal vigilance.”

We lay wreaths. We renew our oaths. We stand in solemn awe of such fidelity. Because for us to keep faith with American veterans, we must never forget exactly what was given to us, what each of them was willing to put on the line for us.

And we must never forget that it is the mighty arm of the American warrior — never bending, never breaking, never yielding — generation after generation that secured for us the blessings of a nation that still stands today as the beacon of

liberty, democracy, and justice around the world.

May God bless you all. God bless all American veterans and those who proudly earned that title. And may God protect our troops.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... bservance/

Former President and Presidential Candidate Donald Trump honoring veterans on Veterans Day:
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In honor of our great Veterans on Veteran’s Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 5342651569

Compare and contrast.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:24 pm
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“In honor of our great Veterans on Veteran’s Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 5342651569
Traitor dude is really putting in a tremendous effort to stay recognized as the politician doing more than anyone in our Nation’s history to pit as many Americans against other Americans as possible.

What an ass.
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Here's the latest Biden campaign ad (the video begins with it - I tried to find just the ad, but the link will do).

There are no lines; it's just a series of Trump quotes. It's hard to imagine being in the US military and thinking Trump is the leader we need.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:37 pm
Here's the latest Biden campaign ad (the video begins with it - I tried to find just the ad, but the link will do).

There are no lines; it's just a series of Trump quotes. It's hard to imagine being in the US military and thinking Trump is the leader we need.
I don't either. The story of how a couple of political zealots got Trump to sign off on an insane military directive during the lame duck portion of his presidency is pretty scary. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/11 ... withdrawal
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The greatest honor that Trump paid veterans this year is not stealing $2.8 million from a veterans' charity drive again... as far as we know.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:37 pm
Here's the latest Biden campaign ad (the video begins with it - I tried to find just the ad, but the link will do).

There are no lines; it's just a series of Trump quotes. It's hard to imagine being in the US military and thinking Trump is the leader we need.
I saw this earlier today. What (normal) people don't seem to realize is that NONE of this is REAL to DJT. He has NO frame of reference and if he did, his executive dysfunction wouldn't allow him to process it.

He has NO frame of reference for the military or what every day civilians face on a daily basis. He's never had to face anything because he was molly coddled and protected from reality all of his miserable life and lived behind a wall of wealth and the opportunity that goes with it, that kept him separated from the real world.

His narcissism only allows him to play a part. A part that is based on his impressions and misconceptions. He thinly veiled self promotion in what was supposed to be a tribute to the military for which he was once Commander in Chief (what a joke) reveals who he is. A self serving partially developed human being who views the world as if it were an actual fictionalized television show where his role is that of actor and advertising exec.

Do people not SEE this yet? How many times does it have to play out across the screen for hours, weeks, months and YEARS before people get what both the plot and the actor playing the role are about?

None of this is real to him. The Presidency wasn't real to him. War isn't real to him. Pandemic wasn't real to him. Dictators aren't real to him except for the fact that he sees them as film industry "tough guys" from a movie. His own freaking kids aren't real to him. They are simply things that he owns.

Look at him in NH when he had ONE job to do. One job reading off a teleprompter and he couldn't even do that without naming OBAMA as president and didn't even realize that he did it or what it shows us!!

He said that he was being kept stuck in NYC by the court. A few scant minutes after he left the courtroom he said he was leaving for Bedminster, promptly got on his private jet and got out of Dodge. What? WHAT?

LOOK at what he is showing you. Observe him. Listen to what he says. Look at what he does. Look at how easily he lies.

If you peel back the layers on DJT you will find a HOLLOW CORE inside where a human soul, conscience, and the ability to process REALITY should have been.

He is a virtual NOTHING inside. The only way he currently knows he actually exists is when he hears applause in response to him. Applause which is bloody minimal at this point and he'll end up disintegrating due to that very lack of narcissistic supply. His supply is being cut off by the courts and the court of public opinion. That's why he's off balance.

He's coming apart in pieces like Voldemort's last scene in DH2 because he's run out of the supply of sychophantic horcruxes that kept him alive. When he ran for President the first time he could at least toss out a good line of BS. Now he can't keep all the balls up in the air. He can't even read off a teleprompter. He doesn't know what city he's in. He doesn't know when he misnamed the current President. He can't remember what he said 5 minutes before he speaks again.

He HAS no campaign. He HAS no way of winning his court cases. He HAS no real way to escape the consequences of his own greed and the role of super real estate mogul, all of which he has proven to be a miserable wreck of human failure.

The walls are closing in on him, he knows it and if he were so filthy stinking rich he wouldn't need to beg for donations. Mr. Mogul rolling in dough is on the street corner begging for money from the middle class.

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Whew! I think I went off on a tangential tirade there. I'd apologize if only I were sorry about it.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:08 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:37 pm
Here's the latest Biden campaign ad (the video begins with it - I tried to find just the ad, but the link will do).

There are no lines; it's just a series of Trump quotes. It's hard to imagine being in the US military and thinking Trump is the leader we need.
I don't either. The story of how a couple of political zealots got Trump to sign off on an insane military directive during the lame duck portion of his presidency is pretty scary. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/11 ... withdrawal
100% pure Trump. Absolutely believable.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:25 am
Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:37 pm
Here's the latest Biden campaign ad (the video begins with it - I tried to find just the ad, but the link will do).

There are no lines; it's just a series of Trump quotes. It's hard to imagine being in the US military and thinking Trump is the leader we need.
I saw this earlier today. What (normal) people don't seem to realize is that NONE of this is REAL to DJT. He has NO frame of reference and if he did, his executive dysfunction wouldn't allow him to process it.

He has NO frame of reference for the military or what every day civilians face on a daily basis. He's never had to face anything because he was molly coddled and protected from reality all of his miserable life and lived behind a wall of wealth and the opportunity that goes with it, that kept him separated from the real world.

His narcissism only allows him to play a part. A part that is based on his impressions and misconceptions. He thinly veiled self promotion in what was supposed to be a tribute to the military for which he was once Commander in Chief (what a joke) reveals who he is. A self serving partially developed human being who views the world as if it were an actual fictionalized television show where his role is that of actor and advertising exec.

Do people not SEE this yet? How many times does it have to play out across the screen for hours, weeks, months and YEARS before people get what both the plot and the actor playing the role are about?

None of this is real to him. The Presidency wasn't real to him. War isn't real to him. Pandemic wasn't real to him. Dictators aren't real to him except for the fact that he sees them as film industry "tough guys" from a movie. His own freaking kids aren't real to him. They are simply things that he owns.

Look at him in NH when he had ONE job to do. One job reading off a teleprompter and he couldn't even do that without naming OBAMA as president and didn't even realize that he did it or what it shows us!!

He said that he was being kept stuck in NYC by the court. A few scant minutes after he left the courtroom he said he was leaving for Bedminster, promptly got on his private jet and got out of Dodge. What? WHAT?

LOOK at what he is showing you. Observe him. Listen to what he says. Look at what he does. Look at how easily he lies.

If you peel back the layers on DJT you will find a HOLLOW CORE inside where a human soul, conscience, and the ability to process REALITY should have been.

He is a virtual NOTHING inside. The only way he currently knows he actually exists is when he hears applause in response to him. Applause which is bloody minimal at this point and he'll end up disintegrating due to that very lack of narcissistic supply. His supply is being cut off by the courts and the court of public opinion. That's why he's off balance.

He's coming apart in pieces like Voldemort's last scene in DH2 because he's run out of the supply of sychophantic horcruxes that kept him alive. When he ran for the President the first time he could at least toss out a good line of BS. Now he can't keep all the balls up in the air. He can't even read off a teleprompter. He doesn't know what city he's in. He doesn't know when he misnamed the current the President. He can't remember what he said 5 minutes before he speaks again.

He HAS no campaign. He HAS no way of winning his court cases. He HAS no real way to escape the consequences of his own greed and the role of super real estate mogul, all of which he has proven to be a miserable wreck of human failure.

The walls are closing in on him, he knows it and if he were so filthy stinking rich he wouldn't need to beg for donations. Mr. Mogul rolling in dough is on the street corner begging for money from the middle class.

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You nailed it. It is a beautiful rant. A perfect rant.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:42 am
You nailed it. It is a beautiful rant. A perfect rant.
Ever find one of these abandoned in your yard?

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And when you step on it, it collapses and a little poof of dust emerges?

THAT is the whole of DJT. His inner "core" is made of wafer thin nothingness.

Step on him and he hasn't got enough structure to hold together under the pressure.

Poof!!!
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