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[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Most likely the person.

Is there any justification for the person being upset with someone calling an ambulance and leaving them with a $700 responsibility that they didn't choose to purchase?

Did anybody say at any time the unconscious person didn’t have private health insurance?

Ajax is an active Mormon priesthood holder who wouldn’t can ambulance for an unconscious person. SFMY.

- Doc

[ajax18]

Is there any justification for the person being upset with someone calling an ambulance and leaving them with a $700 responsibility that they didn't choose to purchase?

Did anybody say at any time the unconscious person didn’t have private health insurance?

Ajax is an active Mormon priesthood holder who wouldn’t can ambulance for an unconscious person. SFMY.

- Doc

I'm also an optometrist. I remember this issue ocurring with a colleague who called an ambulance for a little girl who went bezerk over having dilation drops put in her eyes. Do you think Mom thanked the OD for calling an ambulance?

[Dr. Shades]

Ajax is an active Mormon priesthood holder who wouldn’t can ambulance for an unconscious person. SFMY.

"SFMY" = ?

[ceeboo]

Ajax is an active Mormon priesthood holder who wouldn’t can ambulance for an unconscious person. SFMY.

"SFMY" = ?

Salmon fin marmalade yogurt.

[Gadianton]

Do you think Mom thanked the OD for calling an ambulance?

You know Ajax, most everyone else on this forum entered the adult world a long time ago, and have already come to terms with the reality that doing the right thing doesn't necessarily equate to high thanks and praise, but you gotta do it anyway. Certain professions require adulthood more than others. You may have the intelligence to be in the medical field, but you don't have the maturity, which is probably the main reason why your life is so miserable. You clearly hate your job and despise the public you serve. I don't have the highest level of patience for customer service either, but that's one reason why I never contemplated medicine.

As far as the OP scenario, it's very bizarre. No place I ever worked would prohibit you from calling 911 on a unresponsive person pending a managers approval. Telling employees to delay medical response sounds like a legal problem for the employer. Even at one of my pre-mission jobs where I was doing manual labor for a small manufacturing company in SLC, we had training that presented various scenarios, and there was a certain recommended threshold for calling 911 but overshooting was never wrong per se. I've never heard anything like this before.

[tagriffy]

Most likely the person.

Is there any justification for the person being upset with someone calling an ambulance and leaving them with a $700 responsibility that they didn't choose to purchase?

I don't even know if the person was transported, let alone whether they were upset about it. After making sure the fire department didn't need anything else from me, I went back to my job duties.

[canpakes]

Is there any justification for the person being upset with someone calling an ambulance and leaving them with a $700 responsibility that they didn't choose to purchase?

Maybe you should come at this from a personal liability standpoint.

If someone collapses in your office, and you leave them on the ground until (fill in whatever criteria triggers a response from you), then subsequent customers are at risk of tripping over the body, injuring themselves, and suing you for leaving bodies in the path of travel, thus creating a hazard.

You don’t want that, right?

At least, maybe you could have your patients sign a waiver agreeing that you won’t respond in this situation until they somehow signal from their unconscious state an agreement with any proposed remedy. Best to be safe.

[ajax18]

We had a joke about when it was 100 degrees of humid heat during our tennis match. Neither opponent was willing to retire and it was getting dangerous. The bet offered was that the loser would go home in an ambulance. We had to amend that to, "The loser has to pay for the ambulance."

You don't know much about me Gadianton robber. I have an enormous amount to be thankful for and have been helped by my family and myself to acheiving a decent standard of living. That doesn't mean that I have to believe that your socialism did a damn thing for me when I know it didn't nor be forced to believe that I wouldn't be better off without it just to satisfy your worldview. And for the times I endured afflictions in this life and handled it well, I believe that God will reward me in the next. That doesn't mean that I now believe those guilty of the abuse did me a favor. God's hand is who I acknowledge because He is the only one who turned those things around to be for my own profit and good.

[canpakes]

Hold up. How did you get to, ‘it’s wrong to call an ambulance for an unconscious guy, because making him pay for the ambulance is socialism’?

[Gadianton]

That doesn't mean that I have to believe that your socialism did a damn thing for me when I know it didn't nor be forced to believe that I wouldn't be better off without it

Actually, you've admitted socialism has helped you. Your practice made a lot of money according to you because poor people were getting these vouchers or something from the state so they could get vision tests and glasses. And even if your practice moves towards helping people with money, this laid the groundwork for your experience.