ajax18 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:36 pm
Gadianton wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:21 pm
Ajax,
Suppose someone who had been stranded on a desert island for the last 20 years is rescued and this person, who was a political independent in their 20s at the time they were lost, has no idea what's goin' on in American politics. It's between you and Res Ipsa to get them up to speed. Do you really think this person should believe you over Res just because you repeat the same lines about global oligarchs and the deep state, without any details or facts to back anything up, over Res's very thoughtful and researched positions?
I realize Res can go on at length on a number of topics at the same time, but, you don't have to respond to everything. You could find one thing that he's very wrong about and bring the facts to light that he's either missed or willfully misrepresented. The thing is, we know you're very angry at the Deep State and the global oligarchs, but we don't know anything about these people -- it's a black box that magically justifies whatever position you want to take at the time.
I'm just saying that the left's idea of preserving democracy is to weaponize the justice system against their political opponents. Do you not see a contradiction in that? We believe people have the right to vote, but only if they vote for the candidate we agree with.
It’s amazing to see how many “big lies” one human can fall for. There’s a history to attempts to turn the DOJ into a political weapon. The most serious in my memory was during George W. Bush’s presidency. For a time, nonpolitical positions in the DOJ were screened for political affiliation, and conservatives were preferentially hired. It was a huge scandal, with lots of resignations.
Ajax can’t point to a comparable effort by democrats.
The hilarious part of Ajax’s leftist deep state claim is both law enforcement and prosecutors skew conservative. It’s not been unusual for a D president have an R attorney general and/or FBI director. The reverse case rarely happens.
That doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Since Watergate, the DOJ has developed an ethos of administering justice without political bias. That’s the “deep state” Ajax is mostly talking about. Lots of them he complains about are politically on the right, but honor the commitment not to base investigation and enforcement on politics. When they don’t prosecute someone Ajax hates, he dismisses these men and women who are doing the job they were supposed to do as RINO’s. It is only because of these folks that Trump was unable to perform a military coup to overturn the results of a free and fair election.
Donald Trump is facing criminal charges because grand juries of American citizens found there was probable cause that he had committed crimes. A special prosecutor from outside the federal government is in charge of those cases. There is plenty of evidence in each that he broke the law.
The criminal investigation of Hunter Biden was initiated by Donald Trump. He was criminally charged during the Biden administration by a Trump appointed AG. When that AG asked to be appointed Special Prosecutor (as it turns out to investigate Russian disinformation accusing Hunter and Joe Biden of taking bribes), it was given by a D attorney general appointed by Joe Biden, no questions asked. Despite the bleating of the GOP clown car, all the evidence is that the President and the USAG have been completely hands off.
Meanwhile, the GOP has pulled out all the stops to politicize Hunter’s prosecution. They inflamed the very flammable Trump Cult thugs into threatening violence against prosecutors and judges. They publicly released confidential tax information with impunity, despite the fact that there is a guy rotting in jail right now for doing the same with Trump’s returns.
What’s really going on is right wing media is feeding its usual combination of lies and part truths to Ajax and telling him who should be thrown in jail and who should not. Then, when reality doesn’t match the garbage propaganda he’s been lapping up, he shrieks “Lawfare” and “political persecution.”
He rages about Ron Sussman, even though an R Special prosecutor who knew before he investigated that the Clinton campaign was guilty of something charged and tried Sussman, who was found by a jury to be not guilty. Despite failing at two out of three criminal prosecutions, he filed a report with a bunch of wrongdoing he just knew must have happened, but couldn’t find evidence for. Had he done such a thing to Putin in Russia, he’d be dead in a jail cell or degenerated. As far as I know, he’s just fine and isn’t claiming any kind of political retaliation.
Or how about the R Special counsel who couldn’t find evidence on which to bring a criminal charge over Biden’s treatment of documents, but, with no psychological expertise, went on to pass judgment on Biden’s mental condition. Is he in jail? Been pushed out a window?
Two points. Can Ajax point to anything comparable to a report by a D special counsel that found no grounds for criminal charges, but included these kind of political attacks in their reports? How could such reports be published in a DOJ being welded by D’s as a political weapon? These and many other examples clearly show the Big Lie that Ajax has swallowed and continually parrots.
Second, in the grim dystopia he claims exists, either these reports would never have been published and both authors would be imprisoned or dead.
All this could be shrugged off as nonsense except for the fact that this Big Lie is being used as justification for Trump and his cult of thugs to make Ajax’s imaginary dystopia real, with Trump as dictator. That’s the plan. Trump can’t stop running his mouth about it to save his life. And the Heritage Foundation spells it out in black and white.
Here’s the main difference between me and Ajax. I don’t think the government should silence him. I don’t think he and his family should be threatened with violence. I don’t think the government should take away his right to vote or make it more difficult for him to vote. I don’t think the government should throw him in jail for giving his patients medical advice that meets the standard of care for his profession.
He may protest that he abhors violence. But he throws his lot in with thugs that absolutely use violence and threats to get what they could not get through the Democratic process.
And I will call it out for what it is when I see it.