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Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:56 pm
by hauslern
Europe is worried with the possible return of Donald Trump and his friendly attitude with Putin a current autocrat who is likely to be in for life.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qZK ... 3v-Z4/edit
If the US withdraws military aid then it it is up to other nations. Even my own country, Australia has been providing aid. Sweden just provided 1 billion.

Will Trump just ignore the constitution? Will he not oppose Putin's moves in Europe. He has stated that those who died fighting the Nazis were losers.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... Relief Society/615997/

I find it hard while you claim to make the claim to be a democracy you put all these rules and practices in like gerrymandering. The 10 most gerrymandered states seem to be GOP states. The Supreme Court just stopped a challenge to the fairness of the districting in South Carolina.

https://medium.com/rantt/the-top-10-mos ... n-america-

I don't get this fake electors scheme. Eastman was on CBS sixty minutes trying to argue voter fraud was rampant. RudyG accused some election workers and look what that got him. OMG not another four years of that idiot. Australia has and always had a peaceful transition. But then we have no one like Trump.

A group of psychiatrists seem to be arguing Trump is showing signs of dementia. See The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.
See the video on youtube Shrinking Trump: Forensic Psychiatrist Claims Trump's 'Psychological Dangers' Are Worsening. I hope i am not asked to describe the contents as I think any of you can find it and listen.

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:19 pm
by Jersey Girl
hauslern wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:56 pm
OMG not another four years of that idiot.
Right there with you.
A group of psychiatrists seem to be arguing Trump is showing signs of dementia. See The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.
See the video on youtube Shrinking Trump: Forensic Psychiatrist Claims Trump's 'Psychological Dangers' Are Worsening. I hope i am not asked to describe the contents as I think any of you can find it and listen.
I've seen their streams. Gartner and Segal are almost entirely convincing. I've seen them grasp at a few straws in their assessment. If you can get past Gartner's laughter at such a serious subject, they are definitely worth the watch. Gartner, if I recall correctly, was one of the doctors responsible for the Duty to Warn document.

Re: Gartner's laughing. Makes me wonder if he laughs at his own patients and he certainly shouldn't be giggling over the decline of a former President who is running for office again and spells danger to our country and the world if he happens to win the election.

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:23 pm
by Jersey Girl
Yes it was him. Here's an excerpt from his wiki. I know it's long but posters might want to know what they're getting into if they watch the livestreams or interviews. So I guess I slightly misstated when I posted about the Duty to Warn document when in fact that's the organization he founded. In any case, the document was based on the Goldwater Rule. I think the paper was published in the NY Times or some other prominent US newspaper.

Activism
Dr. John Gartner has described himself as a member of "The Resistance" against Donald Trump, stating:

"I went through a similar process like some of the other people you have spoken to who have decided to step away from being active members of "the resistance." For five years I did that work with total energy and commitment. I was sounding the alarm about Trump basically every day. I did hundreds of interviews. I made it my full-time job like I was at war. But after five years, when Biden was inaugurated, I thought, okay, the war's over, I can take off my metaphorical uniform."[5]

Gartner has described Trump as "an animal" who is "convinced that he actually believes that he has some type of God-like powers".[6] Gartner has described Donald Trump as "unwell, dangerously unfit, malignant personality who has reaped massive destruction", who is "hypomanic", "showing gross signs of dementia", and other mental illness and personality disorders.

2017 mental fitness for Office of President Trump petition
Further information: Goldwater rule
In the first months of 2017 Gartner collected the signatures of more than 25,000 mental health professionals. The petition, "Mental Health Professionals Declare Trump is Mentally Ill And Must Be Removed", was sent to the Minority leader, Senator Chuck Schumer of New York.[7] At the end of April 2017, Gartner sent the petition to Washington D.C., with more than 41,000 signatures.[3]

The petition's declaration stated that: We, the undersigned mental health professionals (please state your degree), believe in our professional judgment that Donald Trump manifests a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States. And we respectfully request he be removed from office, according to article 4 of the 25th amendment to the Constitution, which states that the president will be replaced if he is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office".[8]

According to Gartner, Trump's mental handicaps are a mixture of narcissism, paranoia, sociopathy and a measure of sadism.[9]

Duty to Warn
In 2017, Gartner founded Duty To Warn, an organization of mental health professionals and laypersons who consider it their duty to warn patients, clients and the community-at-large, when aware of potential danger.[10][11]

2024 Probable Dementia mental fitness for Office of President Trump petition
In an attempt to raise public awareness about Donald Trump’s apparent cognitive challenges and the extreme danger they represent to the nation if he were to take back the White House in the 2024 election, Gartner has started a petition at Change.org called “We diagnose Trump with probable dementia: A petition for licensed professionals only.”[12]

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:03 pm
by hauslern
Is constant lying a pathology. ? Hitler's propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels said if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it.

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:14 pm
by Jersey Girl
hauslern wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:03 pm
Is constant lying a pathology. ? Hitler's propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels said if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it.
Of course it is. That's why some folks are called a pathological liar.

Here's a quick description of the presumptive Presidential candidate of the Republican Party from Mayo Clinic.

Symptoms

Symptoms of antisocial personality disorder include repeatedly:

Ignoring right and wrong.
Telling lies to take advantage of others.
Not being sensitive to or respectful of others.
Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or pleasure.
Having a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated.
Having problems with the law, including criminal behavior.
Being hostile, aggressive, violent or threatening to others.
Feeling no guilt about harming others.
Doing dangerous things with no regard for the safety of self or others.
Being irresponsible and failing to fulfill work or financial responsibilities.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20353928

That's the lack-of-character sketch of a sociopath. Actually I think he's far worse than that. Let's see if Mayo has something on Dark Triad.

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:16 pm
by Kishkumen
I recall when Greenspan, the Randian economist who was unfortunately taken seriously, admitted that markets, it turns out, do not behave rationally and self-correct. Too bad we still have not figured out that wealth does not make right or prove genius. We have fools with billions of dollars in wealth who are convinced they know what is best deciding our politics for us.

This is true in both major parties, but one, the GOP, is fully prepared to cast aside the last century of hard-won political and social lessons, or, really, any pretense of republicanism and democracy to insure its permanent hold on power. I think we are looking at one-party rule for which Trump will be the gateway.

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:18 pm
by Jersey Girl
Settle for wiki.

Dark Triad/Donald Trump

The dark triad is a psychological theory of personality, first published by Delroy L. Paulhus and Kevin M. Williams in 2002,[1] that describes three notably offensive, but non-pathological personality types: Machiavellianism, sub-clinical narcissism, and sub-clinical psychopathy.[2][3][4][5] Each of these personality types is called dark because each is considered to contain malevolent qualities.[2][6][7][8]

All three dark triad traits are conceptually distinct although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous–manipulative interpersonal style.[9]

Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[10]
Machiavellianism is characterized by the manipulation and exploitation of others, indifference to morality, lack of empathy, and a strategic focus on self-interest.[11]
Psychopathy is characterized by continuous antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callous and unemotional traits (CU),[12] and remorselessness.[13]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:47 pm
by hauslern
It is interesting now Biden is attending the commemoration of D Day with some of "loser's who survived being wheeled around by soldiers.

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:08 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Trump told Hannity he’d be a dictator “for a day.” Later, Trump told Hannity, despite Hannity trying over and over to coax a simple statement from Trump he wouldn’t use his position to go after his political enemies, Trump refused to do it. In fact, he said he would. He fully intends to be a dictator.

When Ajax and like-minded MAGAs say the Democrats are doing this or that, they’re just telling us what they plan to do. Textbook projection and gaslighting when denying it.

- Doc

Re: Is the USA on the road to a dictatorship?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:12 pm
by IWMP
hauslern wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:03 pm
Is constant lying a pathology. ? Hitler's propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels said if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it.
Not sure who said it but I often heard that if people lie often enough they will start to believe their own lies.