10 Symptoms of the WOKE mind.

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10 Symptoms of the WOKE mind.

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1. You read books and don’t burn them - Checked the BYU Library Cat - Seems Library has a copy of Lady Chatterley Lover - no restrictions. Encouraged to read church approved sources. "You read books and don't avoid books that challenge your views." Goebbels said the press is the enemy of the people and if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it. e.g. "the election was stolen" and Mormons aren’t immune from the trend. Utah Parents United is working to ensure that children don’t have access to books the organization and its founders and members dislike. In response, others have pushed bans on the Bible and Book of Mormon. https://bycommonconsent.com/2023/09/19/ ... ban-books/
1a You allow people on media to express their views. - Some get excommunicated - September 6. Attempts were made to discipline Lowell Bennian and Juanita Brooks.
2. You embrace science. - DNA has provided no evidence for some Jewish folk coming and populating parts of the US. by the way Have you found Zarahemla yet? Has the Adam and Eve origins been accepted scientifically? https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics
3. You are willing to change your mind when new information becomes available. Change when Brazilian racial mix kicks the one drop of blood theory out.
4. You understand most issues are not black and white. Will u make gay sex illegal now u have control of the court? Just like Alan Turing who cracked the enigma code. Interesting how conservatives oppose gay marriage and support traditional marriage, they do the latter more often. Rudyg (4), Trump (3).
5. You believe in true equality for all people - Well after 1978 you had to. What McConkie and other racists said was not true - McConkie a prophet seer and revelator? Political equality - Utah one of the 10 most gerrymandered states in the US.
6. You like to share I suppose if you have a 100 billion dollar hedge fund you ought for PR share some. Or another Mall? But then oppose minimum wage laws, unions. Tax cuts more important than say transfer payments for families raising children.
7. You embrace cooperation - Good for PR and getting referrals.
8. You respect other’s rights - Will you support the overturning of same sex marriage? Will you support a woman's right to choose (Let a 12 year old be forced to have a baby conceived by rape or incest)? Trump was asking if it was ok to shoot demonstrators in the legs. Will Justice Thomas talk of banning the pill happen? The US needs local babies not "vermin" "mental patients" "former prisoners" Trump's words.
9. You believe culture and the arts have values - Joseph Goebbels saw the importance of "controlling the public sphere under dictatorship" Chapter 16 "The Most Important Factors in Our Modern Cultural Life" Consolidating Nazi (MAGA?) cultural policies. Look at the obsession about being WOKE. Banning certain stars from shows. (DeNiro, Tom Hanks), page 328, Goebbels, Peter Longerich. Chapter 13 "Taking Firm Control of the Inner Discipline of a people" Propaganda and Manipulation of the Public Sphere" p 273.
10 You care for the planet and all its life - Trump cares more about the money made from oil, He says "clean Coal" There is such a thing?
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hauslern wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:50 pm
9. You believe culture and the arts have values - Joseph Goebbels saw the importance of "controlling the public sphere under dictatorship" Chapter 16
Chapter 16 of what?
"The Most Important Factors in Our Modern Cultural Life" Consolidating Nazi (MAGA?) cultural policies. Look at the obsession about being WOKE. Banning certain stars from shows. (DeNiro, Tom Hanks), page 328,
Page 328 of what?
Goebbels, Peter Longerich. Chapter 13
Chapter 13 of what?
"Taking Firm Control of the Inner Discipline of a people" Propaganda and Manipulation of the Public Sphere" p 273.
Page 273 of what?

hauslern, you really need to work harder on posting ALL relevant information.
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hauslern wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:50 pm
1. You read books and don’t burn them - Checked the BYU Library Cat - Seems Library has a copy of Lady Chatterley Lover - no restrictions. Encouraged to read church approved sources. "You read books and don't avoid books that challenge your views." Goebbels said the press is the enemy of the people and if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it. e.g. "the election was stolen" and Mormons aren’t immune from the trend. Utah Parents United is working to ensure that children don’t have access to books the organization and its founders and members dislike. In response, others have pushed bans on the Bible and Book of Mormon. https://bycommonconsent.com/2023/09/19/ ... ban-books/
1a You allow people on media to express their views. - Some get excommunicated - September 6. Attempts were made to discipline Lowell Bennian and Juanita Brooks.
2. You embrace science. - DNA has provided no evidence for some Jewish folk coming and populating parts of the US. by the way Have you found Zarahemla yet? Has the Adam and Eve origins been accepted scientifically? https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics
3. You are willing to change your mind when new information becomes available. Change when Brazilian racial mix kicks the one drop of blood theory out.
4. You understand most issues are not black and white. Will u make gay sex illegal now u have control of the court? Just like Alan Turing who cracked the enigma code. Interesting how conservatives oppose gay marriage and support traditional marriage, they do the latter more often. Rudyg (4), Trump (3).
5. You believe in true equality for all people - Well after 1978 you had to. What McConkie and other racists said was not true - McConkie a prophet seer and revelator? Political equality - Utah one of the 10 most gerrymandered states in the US.
6. You like to share I suppose if you have a 100 billion dollar hedge fund you ought for PR share some. Or another Mall? But then oppose minimum wage laws, unions. Tax cuts more important than say transfer payments for families raising children.
7. You embrace cooperation - Good for PR and getting referrals.
8. You respect other’s rights - Will you support the overturning of same sex marriage? Will you support a woman's right to choose (Let a 12 year old be forced to have a baby conceived by rape or incest)? Trump was asking if it was ok to shoot demonstrators in the legs. Will Justice Thomas talk of banning the pill happen? The US needs local babies not "vermin" "mental patients" "former prisoners" Trump's words.
9. You believe culture and the arts have values - Joseph Goebbels saw the importance of "controlling the public sphere under dictatorship" Chapter 16 "The Most Important Factors in Our Modern Cultural Life" Consolidating Nazi (MAGA?) cultural policies. Look at the obsession about being WOKE. Banning certain stars from shows. (DeNiro, Tom Hanks), page 328, Goebbels, Peter Longerich. Chapter 13 "Taking Firm Control of the Inner Discipline of a people" Propaganda and Manipulation of the Public Sphere" p 273.
10 You care for the planet and all its life - Trump cares more about the money made from oil, He says "clean Coal" There is such a thing?
Excellent post (Shade's well-intended criticisms notwithstanding)! As I have commented before, anyone who is "anti-woke" either has no clue about what "woke" really means, or they are incorrigibly hateful bigots!
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I have become numbed to the meaning of certain words and phrases, and essentially see them as markers to alert me I'm listening to regurgitated thought (from most people):

- woke
- woke mob
- deep state
- uniparty
- communism/communist
- radical liberalism
- illegals
- cancel culture

I almost didn't open your thread because of it. I'm glad I did. I guess I'm not as numb as I thought, which is good, I suppose.
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A factor being discussed recently is secularization of society and how this will affect the work of LDS missionaries.
Hamblin's sparring partner Phillip Jenkins has an interesting video on why this is happening. "Secularization and the 'Nones' with Dr. Phillip Jenkins"
"A transition is permanent not cyclical or reoccurring once out the toothpaste won't go back into the tube. Secularization is such a transition"
The WOKE folk read books, study science, not dogmatic about their beliefs will change. Is being WOKE affecting this trend?
The religious Philippines immigrants who come to Australia maintain the numbers in the Catholic church. The LDS churches i n Australia seem to have a large number of south sea islanders in their leadership position.
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