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Imagine if a Democrat had said this, or was accused of saying it, or even something similar. Even if it wasn't recorded, and it was just rumor that some Democrat said it. At that point it would be spun into the story of the century in Right Wing propaganda as proof the Democrat party has conspired to steal elections.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:05 amTrump tells Florida Christians that in the future they won’t have to vote because “we’ll have it fixed.”
https://apple.news/AwKanlM1_QY2dk19ulpgyIQ
Worse yet, we get gas lit by everyone who supports Trump. They argue that he is not trying to destroy democracy. We see it right here, even among our "edgy" independents. They say we are being "hysterical."
I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump defenders are conjuring permission for themselves to do bad things by convincing themselves that Trump detractors will somehow deserve what they get.
Trump will pardon himself, but he has floated the trial balloon of being elected beyond his second term several times. However, canceling future elections would ensure that he remains "the leader".honorentheos wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:56 pmBut I don't think he cares about anything further than winning in 2024 so he can pardon himself and get revenge. He just needs their votes this one last time.
After January 6th I’m done reinterpreting Trump’s words for him. No doubt he wants to get elected for personal gain, but he’s the kind of person to get in bed with fanatics to save his own ass. Let’s hope you’re right, though.honorentheos wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:56 pmThis seems to be one of those bad statements being turned into a CODE RED!!!! that is a CODE RED!!! but for different reasons.
In context, he seems to be begging Christians to show up at the polls and vote in 2024 after which they can wash their hands of politics. I 100% believe he means that the effects of his presidency would codify Christian Nationalist aims that motivate Christians to engage in national politics. But I don't think he meant it as it is being portrayed: That there will be no more elections after 2024 if he wins. It could be true. But I don't think he cares about anything further than winning in 2024 so he can pardon himself and get revenge. He just needs their votes this one last time.
I don't think it's reinterpreting. Before saying it he had commented on not wanting to scold Christians but they don't turn out for elections "proportionately". I think in context it's pretty clear he is begging them to go vote. Throughout the talk he argued for how he is going to fix all of the problems Christians have with faithlessness and government. What he actually says is a good reason to be concerned as he is promising them a return of a false past.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:55 pmAfter January 6th I’m done reinterpreting Trump’s words for him. No doubt he wants to get elected for personal gain, but he’s the kind of person to get in bed with fanatics to save his own ass. Let’s hope you’re right, though.honorentheos wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 5:56 pmThis seems to be one of those bad statements being turned into a CODE RED!!!! that is a CODE RED!!! but for different reasons.
In context, he seems to be begging Christians to show up at the polls and vote in 2024 after which they can wash their hands of politics. I 100% believe he means that the effects of his presidency would codify Christian Nationalist aims that motivate Christians to engage in national politics. But I don't think he meant it as it is being portrayed: That there will be no more elections after 2024 if he wins. It could be true. But I don't think he cares about anything further than winning in 2024 so he can pardon himself and get revenge. He just needs their votes this one last time.
Whatever the case may be, hopefully down ballot people will wake up and elect people who’ll fight the MAGAs in Congress.
- Doc