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Who are MAGA people?



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So, this lady who voted for Biden after making the mistake of voting for Trump is now voting for Trump again? What happened? Why go back to Trump? It's not like he improved with age!

If she skipped voting for trump in 2020 it's hard for me to consider her MAGA properly. I think MAGA is a smaller movement within the party. I can't offer precise boundaries, but I'd say unless the person has a red hat or a disgraced flag, or some other kind of Trump goodies like Trump children's books, or actually self-identifies as MAGA, then their motivation is primarily going to be fear/hate of the left. Before Trump there was decades of outrage at Nancy Pelosi, California, and Bill Clinton's affair.

The only person I have ever known that I would solidly place into the MAGA category is the QAnon guy from my neighborhood who moved a while back. And possibly one former coworker. I'm not even sure I'd call Ajax MAGA; he is a supporter of MAGA, but not sure he's MAGA himself. Unless Ceeboo were to self-identify as MAGA, I would not place him in the category either.

I don't count F-Biden paraphernalia on its own as MAGA either. Anyway, the taxonomy of MAGA seems relevant to the thread. To be MAGA, you can't just be using Trump as a means to an end of low taxes or better than the alternative, you have to believe that Trump alone has some mystical power to make America great.

Yeah, MAGA definitely has roots in the Bundy types that didn't want to pay federal grazing taxes and the Tea Party. It's morphed into more of a big tent due to the left's embrace of the war state/wall street. Labor won't back Harris not because of Trump, but because of Wall Street support by the left. People are tired of war and empire and want more money spent here than over there. Trump claims he will support their goals, but, he shouldn't be trusted. I think Kennedy made a mistake trusting Trump, but, perhaps if Trump gets elected again making america healthy again could do some good (I know, I know, how can anyone even entertain such evil and anti-democracy and we should do anything to ensure Trump is defeated and let's bomb Russia immediately)

tent due to the left's embrace of the war state/wall street. Labor won't back Harris not because of Trump, but because of Wall Street support by the left. People are tired of war and empire and want more money spent here than over there.

I'm not doubting that this is true for somebody, but it doesn't describe any Republicans I've ever met. The Republican's I know would hate Kamala as basically an extension of their hate for Nancy Pelosi. I've never even heard a criticism of Kamala as having anything to do with war or Wall Street, or that either of those are even bad.

The reason's I've heard for Kamala are things like, "she slept her way to the top as a DA; total slut", "if she becomes president the whole nation will be filled with drug needles like in San Francisco."

All the Republican's I know are still pro-Ukraine and haven't got the memo they are supposed to be against it; they are Pro-Israel more though because as Christians you know Israel needs to be protected.

Oh, I take one part back, the QAnon guy I've mentioned was against war (he was was a special ops) and preached Trump would bring peace to the middle-east, but we never spoke after Ukraine, I think, so don't know about that. However, he did believe he would be fighting in a Civil War where he'd be forced to kill liberals from a gun mounted in the back of a Velociraptor he wanted to buy. And that Trump would execute all the Washington Democrats. (for eating children at parties with Lady Gaga and Hollywood folks)

Gadianton wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:40 am

tent due to the left's embrace of the war state/wall street. Labor won't back Harris not because of Trump, but because of Wall Street support by the left. People are tired of war and empire and want more money spent here than over there.

I'm not doubting that this is true for somebody, but it doesn't describe any Republicans I've ever met. The Republican's I know would hate Kamala as basically an extension of their hate for Nancy Pelosi. I've never even heard a criticism of Kamala as having anything to do with war or Wall Street, or that either of those are even bad.

The reason's I've heard for Kamala are things like, "she slept her way to the top as a DA; total slut", "if she becomes president the whole nation will be filled with drug needles like in San Francisco."

All the Republican's I know are still pro-Ukraine and haven't got the memo they are supposed to be against it; they are Pro-Israel more though because as Christians you know Israel needs to be protected.

I'm talking about the Bernie refugees like myself that were upset at how he didn't fight and then supported Kennedy, only to have him seemingly blindly support Israel regardless of it's Gaza genocide and Lebanon war to keep Netanyahu out of jail. Regarding Ukraine, that seems to be yet another resource war and we are about to exit it in exchange for war with Iran.

Gadianton wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:00 am

Oh, I take one part back, the QAnon guy I've mentioned was against war (he was was a special ops) and preached Trump would bring peace to the middle-east, but we never spoke after Ukraine, I think, so don't know about that. However, he did believe he would be fighting in a Civil War where he'd be forced to kill liberals from a gun mounted in the back of a Velociraptor he wanted to buy. And that Trump would execute all the Washington Democrats. (for eating children at parties with Lady Gaga and Hollywood folks)

Obvious nutter.

Gadianton wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:04 am

So, this lady who voted for Biden after making the mistake of voting for Trump is now voting for Trump again? What happened? Why go back to Trump? It's not like he improved with age!

If she skipped voting for trump in 2020 it's hard for me to consider her MAGA properly. I think MAGA is a smaller movement within the party.

So... MAGA already means different things to different people. I've heard it used as a label for Trump's "movement" (bowel). I've heard it used to describe a mindset. I tend to think of it as the phenomenon that occurs when a society self-selects their news sources and out of a mix of massive disinformation campaigns and personal frustration, votes for an asshole.

If you're thinking of the rubes draped in Trump garbage at rallies as MAGA, sure, this woman is not in that category. But if you're considering the wider Trump IQ-lowering influence, she's in the MAGA net.

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Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:19 am

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