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shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:55 pm
by ¥akaSteelhead
the idea that the USA is some shining symbol of freedom via democracy has been laid bare as old bones white painted sepulchers, we have at our core cancer, built on promoting ignorance as virtue and with racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny its core tenets.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opin ... z8xm-k0Saw
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:50 pm
by Dr. Shades
Speak for yourself.
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:54 pm
by Some Schmo
Dr. Shades wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:50 pm
Speak for yourself.
I'm sure he was, and yet I have no doubt millions of Americans feel the same way. I know I do.
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:47 pm
by Morley
¥akaSteelhead wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:55 pm
the idea that the USA is some shining symbol of freedom via democracy has been laid bare as white painted sepulchers, we have at our core cancer, built on promoting ignorance as virtue and with racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny its core tenets.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opin ... z8xm-k0Saw
Thank you.
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:25 pm
by ¥akaSteelhead
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:58 pm
by Gunnar
¥akaSteelhead wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:55 pm
the idea that the USA is some shining symbol of freedom via democracy has been laid bare as old bones white painted sepulchers, we have at our core cancer, built on promoting ignorance as virtue and with racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny its core tenants.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opin ... z8xm-k0Saw
That link doesn't work when I try it.
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:02 pm
by Kishkumen
Yep. This is exactly right. We are a thoroughly corrupted cesspool, and we have the president to prove it.
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:41 am
by Gunnar
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:02 pm
Yep. This is exactly right. We are a thoroughly corrupted cesspool, and we have the president to prove it.
Why are there so many Americans who can't or won't see this? If even only 10% of Americans failed to see it, it would still be mind boggling to me and tragic! Too many people seem to accept behavior and speech from Trump that they would never tolerate even coming from their closest friends and family! How could such an obviously vile and corrupt man have become so popular? Apparently he successfully appealed to the deep-seated, inherent bigotry and hatred that that still exists in far too many of us than I was willing to believe.
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:47 am
by Kishkumen
Gunnar wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:41 am
Why are there so many Americans who can't or won't see this? If even only 10% of Americans failed to see it, it would still be mind boggling to me and tragic!
OK, so, democracy is a reading person's game. I don't love Al Gore's personality, but I think he predicted this one accurately. The video generation is not one to think critically. Most people have effectively handed their decisions over to video content.
Re: shining city on a hill was a poor joke
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:55 am
by Gunnar
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:47 am
Gunnar wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:41 am
Why are there so many Americans who can't or won't see this? If even only 10% of Americans failed to see it, it would still be mind boggling to me and tragic!
OK, so, democracy is a reading person's game. I don't love Al Gore's personality, but I think he predicted this one accurately. The video generation is not one to think critically. Most people have effectively handed their decisions over to video content.
Now that makes sense! It should have seemed more obvious to me. I have always loved to read about a large variety of subjects and opinions and in more than one language. Perhaps that helped immunize me from this MAGA insanity.