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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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Chap wrote:
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In the same way that it is OK for Christians to ask their deity to inflict merciless violence on their enemies, it is also fine for them to ask the said supposed entity to tell them the best way to use their inside knowledge of government policy to enable them to beat all their fellow humans in the merciless arena of investment.

If that report is true: remember that Hegseth knew (in ways that others did not) that Tomahawk linked shares were likely to rise soon. Other people didn't, so they sold him those shares at a price they would never have accepted if they had known what he knew. He was, essentially, cheating them out of the money he made. But (his kind of) Christians are fine with that, it seems.
Speaking of Christians…

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskBalkans/s/IBFjZcmiOu

Make that make sense. How in the world have we arrived at this point in history where THAT person has access to the White House? An insane religious nut speaking absolute nonsense from the pulpit is Dump’s religious advisor.

Hey, MAGAs, are you actually ok with this?
Relevant Trump quote about priorities is relevant.

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Trump will continue with blowing up things and people abroad, and single-handedly raising prices and inflation for billions of folks across the entire globe, a long as anyone continues to mention ‘Epstein’. ; )
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Just like last time he was President, Trump is once again horrible for our manufacturing industry. The election was literally an open book test, and MAGA still failed it. Who could have ever foreseen that the policies that caused a net loss of manufacturing jobs would cause a net loss of manufacturing jobs when implemented a second time.

Reminder: Almost every living Nobel-winning economist signed off on a letter stating Trump's policies would be horrible for the American economy, and even his own alma matter's economics department found his proposed policies to be a horrible idea. Trumpenomics is now a more devastating virus than COVID was.
Manufacturing payrolls actually declined slightly over the past year, with 98,000 fewer jobs year-over-year based on the most recent data from the Labor Department. There are 29,900 fewer auto manufacturing jobs and 18,000 fewer wood manufacturing jobs — both sectors the president has tried to protect with trade barriers. New, higher tariffs on steel and aluminum, moreover, have hindered the construction of factories. The industry’s hiring rate — often a reflection of confidence in the economic outlook — is lower now than it was at the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic.
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Because Trump only hires the best people, it’s necessary to fire them so often, so that replacement best people can be brought in to fire later.

This time, it’s Pam Bondi’s turn to be kicked to the curb.

From the WSJ:

Trump Ousts Attorney General Pam Bondi

President Trump ousted Attorney General Pam Bondi, ending a yearlong tenure atop the Justice Department marked by failed efforts to prosecute his favored targets and a view by the president and his advisers that she mismanaged the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.

“Pam Bondi is a Great American Patriot and a loyal friend, who faithfully served as my Attorney General over the past year,” Trump wrote on social media on Thursday afternoon.

The president said Bondi would soon transition to a “much needed and important new job in the private sector.” He didn’t provide details on her new job.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, a former personal lawyer for Trump who was confirmed last year to the second-ranking Justice Department role, will take over on an acting basis. “Pam Bondi led this Department with strength and conviction and I’m grateful for her leadership and friendship,” Blanche said in a social-media post.

Bondi presided over a turbulent period at the Justice Department, as she worked to make an agency that historically had operated independently of presidential influence deliver on Trump’s priorities. She took steps that his first-term attorneys general had refused to take, including attempting to prosecute his perceived enemies and hunting for evidence that he beat former President Joe Biden in the 2020 election.

Bondi oversaw the firings and forced departures of scores of prosecutors and other employees who investigated Trump and his allies in recent years. She even placed a large banner of Trump’s face on the outside of the Justice Department.
Trump has nevertheless privately complained for months about her, describing her as weak and ineffective and saying she had moved too slowly to bring criminal cases against those he saw as adversaries.

In September, Trump singled out James Comey, the former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and New York Attorney General Letitia James as targets for prosecution in a social-media post he intended as a private message to Bondi pressuring her to bring cases. “We can’t delay any longer, it’s killing our reputation and credibility,” Trump wrote.

Days later, the Justice Department secured an indictment of Comey charging him with obstruction and lying to Congress. The department later brought charges against James. A federal judge dismissed both cases last year after ruling that the Trump-appointed prosecutor behind them was unlawfully installed in the role.

Trump blamed Bondi’s handling of FBI files related to Epstein, the convicted sex offender, for creating months of political and personal headaches for him. Facing sustained bipartisan criticism, Bondi was subpoenaed by the Republican-led House Oversight Committee earlier this month to sit for a closed-door deposition in April.

The president weighed firing her in January but ultimately was persuaded not to do so, people familiar with the matter said.

Bondi, 60 years old, is the second cabinet secretary Trump has fired in recent weeks; he ousted former Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem in early March.

Bondi stepped up her efforts to advance some of Trump’s priorities in recent weeks. Last week, she quietly authorized a U.S. attorney in North Carolina to pursue investigations across the country into Trump’s 2020 election loss, a step that came after Trump expressed frustration that the department hadn’t done more to investigate those he falsely claims helped steal the 2020 election from him.

Trump is still at times warm personally with Bondi—a former Florida attorney general who was once one of his defense attorneys and has traveled with him to special events and celebrations.

Trump’s criticisms of Bondi echo the dynamic he had with his first-term attorneys general. He pushed out Jeff Sessions, whose decision to recuse himself from the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election spurred the undoing of their once-close alliance. Sessions’s successor, William Barr, ultimately resigned after saying investigators had found no widespread fraud that would have changed Trump’s 2020 election loss.

Bondi, in contrast, had gone to great lengths to look into Trump’s central grievances from his first term, including appointing the U.S. attorney in Miami to reinvestigate the intelligence community’s assessment of Russia’s 2016 election efforts. In January, she allowed FBI agents to seek a search warrant to seize tens of thousands of ballots from the main election office in Fulton County, Ga.

She also authorized prosecutions of some of the investigators who had pursued Trump for years, including Comey and James. Trump wanted to see those criminal cases revived quickly after both were dismissed in November by the judge. Prosecutors tried twice to secure a new indictment of James, but grand juries rejected them both times.

Josh Dawsey, WSJ

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Largely dismantling the US Forest Service wasn’t on Trump’s list of things to do as President, but here we are.
Forest Service to move HQ out of DC, shutter regional offices in sweeping overhaul
Employees react with tears, warn of brain drain and call the changes "a pointless exercise."

ERIC KATZ | APRIL 1, 2026
GOVERNMENT REORGANIZATION
LAND MANAGEMENT



The U.S. Forest Service is moving its headquarters out of Washington and closing dozens of facilities across the country in a move the agency said will streamline its work but that employees cautioned could lead to a mass exodus of staff.

The Agriculture Department agency will shift around 260 employees to its new headquarters in Salt Lake City, Utah, and move around a to-be-determined number of employees in soon-to-be-shuttered regional offices. The reshaping of the agency is part of a larger USDA reorganization that will see 2,600 employees shifted from the capital region into new regional hubs around the country.

USFS leadership said it was shifting from its decades-old regional-based model to one organized around states, though it will maintain only 15 state directors and many of them will oversee multiple states. The Forest Service will maintain 20 research and development stations across the country, while closing 57 others. It will close all nine of its regional offices and 130 employees will remain in Washington.

“​​Moving the Forest Service closer to the forests we manage is an essential action that will improve our core mission of managing our forests while saving taxpayer dollars and boosting employee recruitment," USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins said.

Employees experienced various stages of grief upon learning the news, according to those who spoke to Government Executive on the condition of anonymity.

“Reactions range from crying to anger to silence,” one midwest-based employee said after Tuesday's announcement.

Washington-based employees will receive information about timelines for relocations in “the coming days and weeks,” USFS Chief Tom Schultz told employees in an agency-wide email. The full reorganization and office closures will play out over the next year. Schultz promised “clear guidance to employees and partners” along the way.

“I know this transition raises questions about roles, locations, reporting structures, and timelines,” Schultz said. “Change of this magnitude affects people, families, and communities--not just organizational charts. We are committed to approaching this work with transparency, empathy, respect, and an understanding of the real impacts on your lives.”

Employees told Government Executive those words offered little comfort due to the remaining uncertainty and potentially life-altering impacts. Staff across the country who were in the field without access to computers missed the announcement and various town halls offering additional information.

“We have no clue how this will affect us on the ground,” said one employee based in a northwestern regional office. “I have no idea what is in store for my program.”

While USFS is eliminating all of its nine regional offices, it will maintain facilities in most existing locations and the bulk of those employees will not have to relocate. In regions six, eight and nine, however—located in Portland, Ore., Atlanta and Milwaukee, respectively—the facilities themselves will shutter and employees will have to move, according to a notice obtained by Government Executive. The exact locations for the staff there has not yet been determined, employees said, but management told staff they will be placed in Utah, Colorado or New Mexico.

Government Executive first reported plans for this reorganization were underway last April and USDA made the official announcement in June, though it told employees on Tuesday the makeup for the restructured Forest Service “is currently being developed.”

“Your position is subject to reorganization, and your duty station will change,” Schultz told regional staff set to be relocated in an internal memorandum. “You will be relocated to a new duty station to one of the locations identified above. The specific details, exactly where, when, and into what position, have not yet been determined.”

In a statement, Schultz took a less conciliatory tone.

"Effective stewardship and active management are achieved on the ground, where forests and communities are found—not just behind a desk in the capital,” Schultz said.

Rollins added the changes would enable boosted timber production, a key priority for the Trump administration.

Employees will relocate between this summer and next, with bargaining taking place with unions in the coming months. Schultz said the agency will hold informational sessions in the coming months and all employees required to relocate more than 50 miles will receive assistance to do so. One employee said they were told to expect “individual assignment letters” in May or June.

“There is a position in the restructured Forest Service for every permanent employee willing to accept reassignment,” Schultz said, though he added there may be opportunities for buyouts or early retirements. USDA shed more than 15,000 employees last year through various incentive programs.

Employees reassigned to a new location must either accept it or lose their job. Some USFS employees will be assigned jobs in Fort Collins, Colo., another of the new "hubs" USDA is establishing. The others, in addition to Salt Lake City, will be in Raleigh, N.C.; Kansas City, Mo.; and Indianapolis.

The Forest Service plans previously received particularly negative feedback during the public comment period from lawmakers, employees and local governments on the larger USDA reorganization, as well in meetings the department held with tribal governments. Tribal leaders, for example, said the elimination of USFS regional offices would diminish working relationships, lead to the loss of institutional knowledge related to treaty obligations and result in less coordination with agency leadership.

Employees expressed skepticism that most relocated staff would agree to stay with the agency. Trump in his first term relocated two USDA’s offices to Kansas City, which resulted in the loss of more than half of their staff and significant drops in productivity.

“Most I've talked to will not move, but we'll see when it's time to make their final decision,” one staffer said.

In a separate email to staff, Schultz acknowledged the value of the existing regional structure, noting it “served the agency well” for decades and “helped us form strong relationships and carry out a mission that has only grown in importance.” Growing budget constraints and demands on employees, he added, have made it more valuable for staff to move closer to the constituencies they serve and for the agency to empower local leadership to make more decisions.

The northwest-based employee, however, said it was “obvious” to employees on the ground that the plan was poorly thought out.

“It is a completely pointless exercise that is going to cause more problems than there already are,” the employee said.

Another western employee said he found the larger reorganization “incoherent,” but said the push to move employees out of the nation’s capital was prudent. Still, he called the elimination of regional structure a “radical change.”

“The regions are where the real work gets done and those reporting chains will be totally upended by the new state forester system,” the employee said.


https://www.govexec.com/management/2026 ... ul/412566/
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It's becoming more and more obvious to me that Trump and his diehard MAGA followers, rather than "making America great again", are eagerly trying to marginalize or dismantle the very governmental institutions and agencies that have done the most make America great in the first place and the envy and admiration of most of the rest of the world. Nothing seems to be more important to Trump than dismantling anything and everything that doesn't directly add to his own wealth and power and that of his wealthiest donors, family and friends at the expense of nearly everyone else.
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Hegseth and hand-picked military commanders are framing this war, essentially, as trying to kick off Armageddon:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... ndate.html

Hey, MAGA board members, you ok with this? Are you ok with religious nut jobs starting wars in the hopes they can trigger Jesus’ return? You ok with hundreds of billions and the economic inflation that starting a war with Iran is causing?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2026 12:34 pm
Hegseth and hand-picked military commanders are framing this war, essentially, as trying to kick off Armageddon:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... ndate.html

Hey, MAGA board members, you ok with this? Are you ok with religious nut jobs starting wars in the hopes they can trigger Jesus’ return? You ok with hundreds of billions and the economic inflation that starting a war with Iran is causing?
The Pope responds.

‘Your hands are full of blood’: Pope Leo REBUKES Hegseth’s war prayers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgAZNV4e1uc
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This is outrageous behavior from a sitting president;

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But...I thought that George Washington wrote to George the third like that on a daily basis, just to show he was a Red-blooded American Warrior.... Didn't he?
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2026 5:32 pm
Who could have ever foreseen that the policies that caused a net loss of manufacturing jobs would cause a net loss of manufacturing jobs when implemented a second time.
On that note -
Have Trump's tariffs worked? This is where things stand a year after 'Liberation Day'

APRIL 2, 20265:00 AM ET
Scott Horsley


President Trump ordered double-digit tariffs on nearly everything the U.S. imports on April 2 last year. This is where things now stand a year later.


A year ago, President Trump ordered double-digit tariffs on virtually everything the U.S. imports.

In a ceremony at the White House, he promised that jobs and factories would come "roaring back" to the country as a result, that consumer prices would fall and that April 2 would go down in history as "the day we began to make America wealthy again."

One year later, many of Trump's import taxes have been struck down by the Supreme Court. But the president remains committed to tariffs.

Here's where things stand on the first anniversary of "Liberation Day."

The government collected a lot of money but has to give half of it back

Tariffs are generating tens of billions of dollars in revenue for the federal government.

In the first five months of the fiscal year, the government raised $151 billion from tariffs — nearly four times as much as during the same period the previous year.

A shadowy industry is helping small businesses pay tariffs — at a high cost
Most of that tax bill is being paid by U.S. importers, and in some cases they're passing the cost on to consumers. But six weeks ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Trump had overstepped his authority with some of the tariffs he had imposed, and now about half of the total tariff revenue will have to be refunded.

Customs officials are working on a plan to refund about $166 billion in tariffs that were wrongly collected, and they hope to have the details worked out by mid-April.

A boom in domestic manufacturing hasn't happened

Taxing imports was supposed to give a boost to U.S. manufacturers.

"We will supercharge our domestic industrial base," Trump said in announcing the tariffs last year. But manufacturing has been in a slump for most of the last year. U.S. factories employed 89,000 fewer people in February than they did in April, when the worldwide tariffs took effect.

The president boasts that foreign companies are investing huge sums in the U.S. to avoid his tariffs, and Trump often cites wildly inflated figures. In fact, official government tallies show that foreign direct investment last year was $288 billion — slightly less than the previous year and below average for the last 10 years.

Inflation remains elevated

Inflation has cooled considerably from its four-decade high in 2022 — but prices are still climbing faster than the Federal Reserve would like, in part due to tariffs.

Inflation in February was 2.4%, slightly higher than it was last April.

"These elevated readings largely reflect inflation in the goods sector, which has been boosted by the effects of tariffs," Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell told reporters last month.

And economists warn that inflation could now worsen after the U.S. and Israel started a war against Iran, sending global energy prices sharply higher.

The trade deficit hasn't changed much

Imports seesawed last year as U.S. businesses tried to stockpile goods before tariffs took effect or whenever the import tax rate was temporarily reduced.

But over the course of 2025, Americans actually imported slightly more goods than they did the previous year, before Trump's tariffs took effect.

Imports of goods last year totaled $3.4 trillion, up 4% from 2024 — but exports totaled $2.2 trillion, a 6% increase. That helped lead to an increase in the total goods trade deficit, which rose about 2% to $1.24 trillion.

Import taxes are high, but not as high as a year ago

The average tariff rate soared on Liberation Day and the days that followed, at one point topping 21%. Goods from China were briefly subject to a tariff of 145%, which brought imports from that country to a virtual standstill.

But the Trump administration later reduced many of those import taxes, and the Supreme Court then removed some tariffs altogether. As of February, the Tax Foundation estimates that the average tariff on imports is about 10%. That's about half of what it was at its peak but still about four times as high as the average import tax at the beginning of last year, before Trump returned to the White House.

"By our count, tariffs changed more than 50 times between Liberation Day and now," says Erica York, vice president of federal tax policy at the Tax Foundation. "There was just no way for businesses to plan."

York says that this volatility contributed to last year's sluggish job gains and the slowdown in economic growth.

"It's going to weigh on hiring. It's going to change investment plans," she says. "On top of the significant tax increase the tariffs caused, they also had this added uncertainty tax on top of that."

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/02/nx-s1-57 ... on-economy
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