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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:13 pm
Curiously, the guy who made the 8/25/25 White House directive to the Attorney General regarding flag desecration hasn't called for anyone to spend a year in jail for this.
Funny that. I have not noticed any special reverence for the flag among the MAGA faithful. They stick all kinds of screwy looking flags on their property. They might as well be burning them for all the love of country they show.
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Whiskey wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:27 pm
Will anyone be posting Nazi flags in this thread?
Why do you ask?
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 5:37 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:27 pm
Will anyone be posting Nazi flags in this thread?
Why do you ask?
Just checking to see if all the people posting Nazi flags plan to post more of their pics with Nazi flags.
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Whiskey wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:27 pm
Will anyone be posting Nazi flags in this thread?
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Oct 17, 2025 8:03 pm
Whiskey wrote:
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Oh. That’s way better than posting a nazi flag.
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Whiskey wrote:Just checking to see if all the people with Nazi flags plan to post more of their pics with Nazi flags.
Why don't you give your bros a ring and ask them?
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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:33 am
Whiskey wrote:Just checking to see if all the people with Nazi flags plan to post more of their pics with Nazi flags.
Why don't you give your bros a ring and ask them?
Why? Because I don’t have bros with Nazi flags. So I checked on the ding dongs posting Nazi flags. Are they your bros?
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From the conservatives at National Review …

Trump Sure Looks to Be Pursuing Regime Change in Venezuela

By JIM GERAGHTY
October 16, 2025 9:53 AM


I guess the CIA’s ongoing work in Venezuela isn’t so covert anymore. On Wednesday, the New York Times reported, “The Trump administration has secretly authorized the CIA to conduct covert action in Venezuela, according to U.S. officials, stepping up a campaign against Nicolás Maduro, the country’s authoritarian leader.” The Times report said that the agency was now authorized to “take covert action against Mr. Maduro or his government either unilaterally or in conjunction with a larger military operation.”

President Trump, holding a press availability in the Oval Office, Wednesday, after the Times scoop:
Q: Mr. President, thank you. I’m curious, why did you authorize the CIA to go into Venezuela? And is there more information you can share about these strikes on the alleged [Inaudible] Caribbean?

Trump: Well, I can’t do that, but I authorize for two reasons, really. Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United States of America. They came in through the — well, they came in through the border. They came in because we had an open border policy. And as soon as I heard that, I said, a lot of these countries — they’re not the only country, but they’re the worst abuser.

And they’ve entered there. They’ve allowed thousands and thousands of prisoners, mental institution — people from mental institutions, insane asylums, emptied out into the United States. We’re bringing them back, but that’s a really bad — and they did it at a level that probably — many, many countries have done it, but not like Venezuela.

They were down and dirty. And the other thing are drugs. We have a lot of drugs coming in from Venezuela. And a lot of the Venezuelan drugs come in through the sea. So, you get to see that, but we’re going to stop them by land also. [Emphasis added.]

Q: Does the CIA have authority to take out Maduro?

Trump: Oh, I don’t want to answer a question like that. That’s a ridiculous question for me to be given, not really a ridiculous killer’s question, but wouldn’t it be a ridiculous question for me to answer. But I think Venezuela is feeling heat, but I think a lot of other countries are feeling heat too. We’re not going to let this country, our country, be ruined because other people want to drop, as you say, their worst.
This looks an awful lot like an effort to change the regime in Venezuela, doesn’t it? And you thought I was joking when I said Trump was the greatest neoconservative president we’ve had in ages.

At the end of September, the Times reported that Secretary of State (and Acting National Security Adviser, and Acting National Archivist of the U.S., and former Acting Administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development, and . . .) Marco Rubio, along with CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and chief domestic policy adviser Stephen Miller were all insisting on a sustained U.S. effort to push Maduro out of power. It appears they have persuaded the president; in late October, Trump instructed special presidential envoy Richard Grenell to stop diplomatic discussions with the regime in Venezuela.

If the policy of the U.S. government is that we want to see the regime of Maduro toppled and replaced, it seems like the sort of consequential policy decision that Congress ought to weigh in on. And while the specifics of the work of the CIA, the military, and the National Security Agency must remain classified to protect sources and methods, a major and far-reaching foreign policy choice like this one really ought to be openly discussed with the American people.
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Trump is demanding that American taxpayers pay him $230 million.
President Donald Trump is pressing for his Justice Department to pay roughly $230 million as a settlement for investigations he faced...
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Could a DOGE apologist help me out? Seems to me that the head of the executive branch, telling an entity within the executive branch, which is headed by people previously employed by him, which he appointed to their current positions, which he can get rid of if they don't do what he wants, that they need to give him almost a quarter of a billion dollars of taxpayer money because he got his feelings hurt when he was unsuccessful at hiding classified documents in his bathroom... would probably fall within at least one of the categories of waste, fraud, and abuse.

Thank goodness he donated a few of his paychecks during his first term, huh?

In related news, his $200 million bribe ballroom has started construction. Surprising to no one, he lied about it not being connected to the White House, and not requiring any structural changes. Government employees have been told they aren't allowed to take and post pictures of the destruction anymore.

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:45 pm
Thank goodness he donated a few of his paychecks during his first term, huh?
It’s not even clear that he has done that. Trump claims to have rerouted a number of paychecks during his first term to various government agencies, but since his team is in control of the books, there’s little proof of how much of that money, if any, actually made it to their targets. Seems like it would have made more sense to contribute to an actual charity that could independently verify a donation.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 410134002/

In any event, he makes far more money forcing the government to pay for security and staffing through and to his properties when he is on golfing trips (which seems to happen more often than for any other President in history). This new grift of having taxpayer money flow into his bank accounts because he was caught doing something stupid also makes any past paycheck ‘donation’ look like pocket change, considering that the amount he’s demanding is 575 times greater than his yearly salary.
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