Fox News Tried Going After Denmark.

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How did you get the idea that any of us are reluctant to recognize that most intersex identify as either male or female? I certainly have no such reluctance!
When you initially stated that "150 million people who simply cannot be fit into the rigid categories of exclusively either male or female," it seems there was a misunderstanding. Now that you recognize 75% of them identity as male or female, the figure of 150 million is effectively reduced by 75%.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:39 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:27 pm
How did you get the idea that any of us are reluctant to recognize that most intersex identify as either male or female? I certainly have no such reluctance!
When you initially stated that "150 million people who simply cannot be fit into the rigid categories of exclusively either male or female," it seems there was a misunderstanding. Now that you recognize 75% of them identity as male or female, the figure of 150 million is effectively reduced by 75%.
Even if true, that does not invalidate or diminish the main point of my argument!
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:39 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:27 pm
How did you get the idea that any of us are reluctant to recognize that most intersex identify as either male or female? I certainly have no such reluctance!
When you initially stated that "150 million people who simply cannot be fit into the rigid categories of exclusively either male or female," it seems there was a misunderstanding. Now that you recognize 75% of them identity as male or female, the figure of 150 million is effectively reduced by 75%.
What if it was reduced to 2?
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canpakes wrote:
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:39 pm


When you initially stated that "150 million people who simply cannot be fit into the rigid categories of exclusively either male or female," it seems there was a misunderstanding. Now that you recognize 75% of them identity as male or female, the figure of 150 million is effectively reduced by 75%.
What if it was reduced to 2?
Trump's silly executive order, in effect, decrees that the actual number is 0.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:25 pm
I believe there is a significant likelihood that the progressives on the board are reluctant to recognize that most intersex individuals identify as either male or female. Acknowledging this would reduce the often-cited 1.7% figure by 75%, and with that reduction, the credibility of their progressive agenda would also diminish. So I'll ask you, Canpakes, if an intersex person identifies as male or female, should we recognize their identity?
I know this was asked of Canpakes, but in my opinion, absolutely. We should trust people and respect their ability and decision to be able to know and identify their own gender, even when it doesn't match their biological sex (or binary lack thereof).
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:08 pm
Alright, your number is 160 million, which represents 2% of 8 billion. Are you able to acknowledge that 75% of the 160 million identify as either male or female? Intersex: When binary notions simply don’t fit https://search.app/563ktasvFEcTXArA7

Intersex: Definition, terminology, and identities https://search.app/yssLYsfsGXJkAEqK7
You’re missing the point. The issue isn’t about how people self identify. It’s about how the state is going categorises people. How they see themselves is irrelevant as far as Dear Leader Trump is concerned.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:40 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:25 pm
I believe there is a significant likelihood that the progressives on the board are reluctant to recognize that most intersex individuals identify as either male or female. Acknowledging this would reduce the often-cited 1.7% figure by 75%, and with that reduction, the credibility of their progressive agenda would also diminish. So I'll ask you, Canpakes, if an intersex person identifies as male or female, should we recognize their identity?
I know this was asked of Canpakes, but in my opinion, absolutely. We should trust people and respect their ability and decision to be able to know and identify their own gender, even when it doesn't match their biological sex (or binary lack thereof).
So far as I can tell (and I'm not keeping up with everything he says) Trump doesn't seem to know the difference between gender and biological sex. He makes no distinction between the two. It's not at all surprising.
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