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Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:43 am
by Moksha
Trump declaring himself for Russia and tossing the European democracies aside is a bit of a shock. I imagine he will be praised for this in the LDS General Conference, although I am uncertain whether the Brethren will order the European Temples to shut down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/us/p ... putin.html
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:50 am
by Jersey Girl
Did you see where he blamed Ukraine for starting the war? The "man" is slap out of his mind.
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:15 pm
by Gunnar
Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:50 am
Did you see where he blamed Ukraine for starting the war? The "man" is slap out of his mind.
It's outrageous that he would claim that, especially as it is a colossal and obvious lie (as is almost everything that comes out of his mouth.) I don't believe that even Trump believes that, though. It is pretty certain that he only claims that to gain more favor with Putin.
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:40 pm
by Brack
Donald Trump is very much attractive to authoritarians such as Putin since Trump is a authoritarian himself.
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:45 pm
by Moksha
Gunnar wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:15 pm
It's outrageous that he would claim that, especially as it is a colossal and obvious lie (as is almost everything that comes out of his mouth.) I don't believe that even Trump believes that, though. It is pretty certain that he only claims that to gain more favor with Putin.
Trump's followers love that he lies so outrageously. Medically, it is known as pathological lying.
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:26 pm
by Gunnar
Two GOP senators rail against Putin despite Trump’s rosy assessment of Russian leader
Two prominent GOP senators, Sen. Roger Wicker of Mississippi and Sen. John Kennedy of Louisiana, criticized Russian President Vladimir Putin and seemed to break with President Donald Trump over negotiations in the peace deal to end the war in Ukraine.
I think John Kennedy is one of the very worst Senators in congress, but I certainly agree with him on this point, and even more certainly with Roger Wicker!
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:33 pm
by Moksha
Gunnar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:26 pm
I think John Kennedy is one of the very worst Senators in congress, but I certainly agree with him on this point, and even more certainly with Roger Wicker!
If push comes to shove, they will bow down to Trump on this point. Republicans with a backbone have left Congress.
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:41 am
by Moksha
Steven Bannon gave a Sieg Heil salute at CPAC to a huge applause.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout ... utm_term=1
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:11 am
by ajax18
Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:50 am
Did you see where he blamed Ukraine for starting the war? The "man" is slap out of his mind.
He's blaming Ukraine for not negotiating a peace earlier. Even a month after this started in 2022, Ukraine could have ceded Donback and Crimea in exchange for NATO membership and a halt to Russian aggression. Was that fair? No absolutely not. Putin is a brutal expansionist and what he did was evil. But was refusing to cut a deal in the best interests of Ukraine? Was it in the best interests of the American taxpayer? So now after having their country leveled and most of his fighting age men killed or dismembered, after the US wasting how many hundreds of billions of dollars guess what the deal is going to be for Ukraine? Giving up the Donback and Crimea, and a treaty to halt Russian expansion. And what good was the money America spent on fighting this war? Why was America paying for it rather than Europe? As long as the American taxpayer is paying for this war, than it's our right to decide whether it's worth it to us or not, which we don't even really get to do given that our citizens who contribute nothing to the economy get the same vote as those that are responsible for paying the bills doing all the work! If climate change were really the most urgent foreign policy issue as Democrats claimed, why are they all the sudden so much in favor of long and expensive foreign wars and defense department spending, especially when it doesn't change the eventual outcome other than the climate footprint these wars have left, which aren't insignificant.
We're in a state of civil war in the US. We have irreconcilable differences that have not been able to be peacefully resolved for quite some time now. Both sides are willing to fight for what they perceive as being right, are they not? The only way this has ever been resolved in human history is violence. Do you think that's the best option at this point, especially now that Trump is president and you're not going to get your way through democracy?
Re: Trump teams with Russia
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:20 am
by ajax18
Just wait until the same precedents you've set with partisan political weaponization of the justice system cuts back against your side of the aisle in the same way. I think they should. The same censorship, cancellation, and criminalization of political opinion needs to hit the left right back in the pocketbook in just fashion because that's all you're capable of understanding. Mercy is for the repentant. The left doesn't qualify for mercy.
Trump is a modern day George Washington. George Washington took on the bully, that was England and against all odds, he won. And then in an unprecedented decision he refused to become king of America. He chose to step down after two terms. Donald Trump took on an even bigger bully which was the partisan political deep state, justice department, and legal systems. And against all odds, he won, when even I thought he would be joining people like Bannon, Navarro, Flynn, and Manafort as political prisoners for working on Trump's campaigns and were bankrupted and imprisoned for supporting the MAGA movement. You're lucky that Trump is magnanimous and not interested in vengeance. I would hang every last one of these treasonous partisan political prosecutors who weaponized the justice department against anyone associated with the MAGA movement, Jack Smith, Fanny Willis, Judge Engoron, Laisha James. They crossed a line and it just cannot be tolerated or ignored.
Generations from now school children will mistakenly assign the origin of the term "trumped up charges," to the 45th and 47th president when they read about it in history books.