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I was suspicious that this was not an entirely accurate quote, so I watched the source video.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:46 pm“To see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic screwup like this demonstrates that these are not serious people,” ~ Pete Buttigieg
I saw it first on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel last night. I don't know if Pete has his own channel or if it came from a social media account he has.Some Schmo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:08 pmI was suspicious that this was not an entirely accurate quote, so I watched the source video.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:46 pm“To see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic screwup like this demonstrates that these are not serious people,” ~ Pete Buttigieg
He did, indeed, call it an epic “F” up. If he hadn't already, Pete just lost Shades with that "low-level language."
That's where I saw it too.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:09 pmI saw it first on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel last night. I don't know if Pete has his own channel or if it came from a social media account he has.
If Jeffrey Goldberg’s characterization of the military plans he was exposed to is accurate, and if members of a Signal group including figures like Waltz and Gabbard discussed classified military plans, several U.S. laws and regulations concerning classified information handling and communication retention could be implicated. Here are some key legal frameworks that might be relevant:
1. Handling of Classified Information
Espionage Act (18 U.S.C. § 793-798)
If any participant willfully transmitted, retained, or disclosed national defense information without authorization, they could be in violation of the Espionage Act.
If the information was shared in a manner that could be considered gross negligence (e.g., discussing sensitive plans on an unapproved platform like Signal), this could be prosecutable.
Executive Order 13526 (Classified National Security Information)
Classified military plans are typically marked at a high security level (e.g., SECRET or TOP SECRET).
The order mandates that classified information must only be stored and transmitted on approved, secure government systems.
Use of Signal, unless approved for classified communication, would be a clear violation.
2. Federal Records Act (44 U.S.C. Chapter 31)
Federal officials and military personnel must retain records of official government business.
If the Signal conversations involved official military planning or policy discussions, those messages should have been preserved as federal records. Deleting or failing to archive them could be a violation.
3. Presidential and Federal Records Acts Amendments of 2014
This law strengthened transparency requirements, mandating that government officials using non-governmental electronic messaging services (like Signal) must copy or forward messages to an official system within 20 days.
4. Improper Use of Personal Electronic Devices for Government Business
Department of Defense (DoD) Policies on Secure Communications
DoD regulations prohibit discussing classified plans on unauthorized platforms.
Secure systems such as SIPRNet (for SECRET-level) and JWICS (for TOP SECRET-level) exist for such communications.
Potential Legal Consequences
If military personnel or government officials participated in this Signal group and shared classified military plans, they could face criminal charges, loss of security clearance, or administrative penalties.
If Waltz, Gabbard, or others involved were still holding active security clearances, they might face sanctions under the Insider Threat Program.
Me too! He's got so many great qualities. Well educated, military experience, goverment experience, great combination of empathetic and non-nonsense approaches, the ability to refer to events, facts, figures in detail. I've never seen anyone try to fact check him and find him at fault or so much as throw him off balance. Sharp as a tack that one is!Some Schmo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:29 pmThat's where I saw it too.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:09 pmI saw it first on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel last night. I don't know if Pete has his own channel or if it came from a social media account he has.
If we ever have an election again, I like Pete's chances.