Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 12:43 am
Ceeboo has the same old veiled threat. Either accept me as intelligent, a good Christian, and a fine grandfather while I support Donald Trump's foot on your neck, or the nation will swing farther right, and millions more will raise their crushing foot and join me. Hound's message seems to be: either accept Ceeboo as intelligent, a good Christian...or else...
Sorry, keep applying the pressure because I'm not going to lie and say untruthful nice things about anybody. I will give credit where I think it's due.
Hound's initial foray was kind of interesting, and for several posts, in my opinion, however the posts were getting accomplished, he was putting material together worthy of considering. I found the initial Hound believable. An older poster that gets up early and only posts once or twice a day, and showing restraint that an older, educated man with poor vision might. An old school Democrat with Carville-like concerns about the party was also believable and some of those concerns are valid. I think the Hound character is somewhat of a progressive himself, with his worries over accepting everyone, including those on the other side of the political fence. Consider Res Ipsa. Res is the only person on the forum who I would say without reservation is an actual progressive. Part of Res''s reason for leaving was, in fact, the way that I and other anti-MAGOTS talk to Trump supporters. I do respect him for that and I understand it.
As far as I'm concerned, people will get the respect they deserve based on the quality of their posts, independent of political persuasion. When Hound is at his best I can play along and see what comes from it. But I don't have the patience of Res. When it gets to the point the person obviously doesn't have a clue and is putting zero effort into it and the subject matter has serious implications for people's lives, well; sorry.
That's only good for the right, because it means I won't be giving the Democrats their chance of winning any time soon. So look at the bright side.
Agreed on Res. He is a progressive. Hound I see not as a person so much as a rhetorical ploy occupying the same digital footprint as a person. Ceeboo I am genuinely curious about. I think there are Christians out there who are fascinated with Mormonism, become attached to Mormons and ex-Mormons, maybe hope we will see the light, and are perhaps disappointed when our disillusionment with Mormonism did not lead os to something more like their Christianity. We were so close! We had the right socially conservative and authoritarian views at one time, but we were, alas, not really Christian. Now we are seen as simply charming, or irritating, but close to or in fact godless.
What I did not understand until now is that our American Christians had given up on our democratic republic, and they were ready to throw it in the crapper to the first guy who would fulfil their longtime desire to try to keep every abortion from happening. That fellow, in their estimation, would be a literal Godsend, and it would not matter to them how vile, dishonest, despicable and lawless he was, because he had worked to stop all abortions. I was not aware that a large number of these people really want our nation to become officially Christian and its laws to follow the Bible.
This is so patently absurd and so far from the vision of our Founders that I don’t know how such people can consider themselves patriots in any meaningful sense. So when I hear that people want to be seen as Christian, I have no idea what that is supposed to mean anymore. It could mean that they want us to live in a US version of the Taliban’s Afghanistan. The way that this presidency is going, that is not inconceivable.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
