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Fuentes criticized Trump over Trump's unusual reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder.

Brutal.

I don’t follow Nick Fuentes, but from what I know I would guess his motivations here were to dunk on Trump because of his stance with Israel, rather than any concern for Charlie Kirk. Fuentes is one of those undesirables with strong opinions on “the Jews”

Molok wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:58 am

I don’t follow Nick Fuentes, but from what I know I would guess his motivations here were to dunk on Trump because of his stance with Israel, rather than any concern for Charlie Kirk. Fuentes is one of those undesirables with strong opinions on “the Jews”

He does recognize that this is problematic, whatever his motives. In no way do I approve of Fuentes' repulsive views and politics.

Kishkumen wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 1:07 am

Molok wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:58 am

I don’t follow Nick Fuentes, but from what I know I would guess his motivations here were to dunk on Trump because of his stance with Israel, rather than any concern for Charlie Kirk. Fuentes is one of those undesirables with strong opinions on “the Jews”

He does recognize that this is problematic, whatever his motives. In no way do I approve of Fuentes' repulsive views and politics.

We are truly through the looking glass when I find my self agreeing with Nick Fuentes on anything, no matter how cynical his motivations are

Kishkumen wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:49 am

Damn.

Damn.

A self-avowed white supremacist who is generally identified as a Neo-Nazi just took Donnie to the woodshed over his complete lack of class in response to the mourning of the tragically murdered Charlie Kirk.

What did Trump do to provoke Fuentes' ire?

Nick Fuentes wrote:They asked him about it (the murder of Kirk) the day after, and he said, "Yeah, yeah, anyway, so we're building the new East Wing." Are you serious? You got shot. This is your 31-year-old friend who supported you for years. You know him by name. Your son is friends with him. It doesn't seem like he could be bothered. He didn't go to the memorial. He's golfing. He's dancing at a sports outing.

(Long pause)

He said he got the news about Charlie Kirk, "Oh and I was in the middle of building the beautiful new ballroom." Really, man? What a disaster!

Think about it. This dude is one of the most extreme, vilest characters in the world of modern American politics, and HE has enough common sense and emotional intelligence to recognize that Trump is not right in the head. Something is definitely wrong. Oh, but every MAGA cult member we see in our midst would not say a word edgewise regarding one of the most baffling displays of psychological and emotional obtuseness in recent memory.

And this is Trump!

THIS IS WHO HE IS.

Not normal. Not even close. If you don't believe me, believe Nick Fuentes. He may be batcrap crazy and horrible himself, but even he knows Trump is a moral cipher.

There's a horseshoe effect on the Jewish question where the far right and the not so far left become strange bedfellows. Whether it's German Nazis or Arabic radical Islamic terorrists, they've both been beguiled by the same source, which is Satan. And yet at the same time, just because someone beguiled by this same force of darkness says it, doesn't mean that everything they say must be wrong. Evil is more subtle than that. The devil always mixes in half truths as he carefully leadeth the souls of men down to hell.

Charlie Kirk saw this. And yet he never called people evil, but rather mourned at their confusion and the grip that Satan had gotten upon their hearts and minds. And this fits with LDS doctrine. Everyone on this planet made one correct choice in the pre-existence. They kept their first estate. And whether the devil gets hold of your heart by mixing in half truths that people on the left might find enticing or half truths that people on the right might find enticing, you're all going to the same place if you don't learn to live by faith in the one true God.

I was unwittingly enticed by some of the things Nick said. But Nick is 100% wrong on Israel and on Donald Trump. I've never understood this hatred of the Jews I see popping up on the right until I realized it was Satan infiltrating and beguiling otherwise good solid Germanic people. In the words of Pastor David Manning, "We've got a problem."

ajax18 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 1:25 am

There's a horseshoe effect on the Jewish question where the far right and the not so far left become strange bedfellows. Whether it's German Nazis or Arabic radical Islamic terorrists, they've both been beguiled by the same source, which is Satan. And yet at the same time, just because someone beguiled by this same force of darkness says it, doesn't mean that everything they say must be wrong. Evil is more subtle than that. The devil always mixes in half truths as he carefully leadeth the souls of men down to hell.

Charlie Kirk saw this. And yet he never called people evil, but rather mourned at their confusion and the grip that Satan had gotten upon their hearts and minds. And this fits with LDS doctrine. Everyone on this planet made one correct choice in the pre-existence. They kept their first estate. And whether the devil gets hold of your heart by mixing in half truths that people on the left might find enticing or half truths that people on the right might find enticing, you're all going to the same place if you don't learn to live by faith in the one true God.

Thanks for sharing this wild response, ajax. I am not exactly sure what to make of it. You are saying that Nick Fuentes' understandable reaction to Trump's bafflingly obtuse comments on his pet construction project when asked about Charlie Kirk's murder is, what, evidence of Satan's influence on Nick Fuentes?

Weird. Completely bonkers.

ajax18 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 1:25 am

I was unwittingly enticed by some of the things Nick said. But Nick is 100% wrong on Israel and on Donald Trump.

So Fuentes is wrong about Trump's weird response to the question. It is completely normal, in your view, to answer a question about how you are holding up after the death of a close friend: "Good, we're making great progress on our construction project!"

I think Fuentes is exactly right in finding Trump's response psychologically aberrant.

Kishkumen wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 1:35 am

ajax18 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 1:25 am

There's a horseshoe effect on the Jewish question where the far right and the not so far left become strange bedfellows. Whether it's German Nazis or Arabic radical Islamic terorrists, they've both been beguiled by the same source, which is Satan. And yet at the same time, just because someone beguiled by this same force of darkness says it, doesn't mean that everything they say must be wrong. Evil is more subtle than that. The devil always mixes in half truths as he carefully leadeth the souls of men down to hell.

Charlie Kirk saw this. And yet he never called people evil, but rather mourned at their confusion and the grip that Satan had gotten upon their hearts and minds. And this fits with LDS doctrine. Everyone on this planet made one correct choice in the pre-existence. They kept their first estate. And whether the devil gets hold of your heart by mixing in half truths that people on the left might find enticing or half truths that people on the right might find enticing, you're all going to the same place if you don't learn to live by faith in the one true God.

Thanks for sharing this wild response, ajax. I am not exactly sure what to make of it. You are saying that Nick Fuentes' understandable reaction to Trump's bafflingly obtuse comments on his pet construction project when asked about Charlie Kirk's murder is, what, evidence of Satan's influence on Nick Fuentes?

Weird. Completely bonkers.

Nick is twisting the truth. It's only understandable when you refuse to see the bigger picture and the whole truth. We all know how President Trump feels about Charlie Kirk, and that includes Nick. My question for Nick Fuentes is the same as my question for people like Mitt Romney. What are you trying to accomplish by tearing down Donald Trump? Because that's not going to lead to anything good for the people whose interests you claimed to be supporting and protecting.

ajax18 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 18, 2025 1:48 am

Nick is twisting the truth. It's only understandable when you refuse to see the bigger picture and the whole truth. We all know how President Trump feels about Charlie Kirk, and that includes Nick. My question for Nick Fuentes is the same as my question for people like Mitt Romney. What are you trying to accomplish by tearing down Donald Trump? Because that's not going to lead to anything good for the people whose interests you claimed to be supporting and protecting.

I can see that you are unable to process what happened, but what happened is absolutely consistent with Trump's narcissism and lack of empathy. I saw the video. Anyone can watch it for themselves. No one is distorting anything. They are providing a normal reading of an abnormal reaction. You are just trying to excuse something that is nucking futz.

I don't want to say this because I still have hopes for Nick. But Nick is falling into the same trap as Adolf Hitler fell into. He better lean into his Christian faith and root out this deception that the devil planted in him.

What's nuts is to try to claim that Donald Trump didn't love Charlie Kirk or that his heart isn't broken over this. Isn't that the motto of the left after Charlies assasination, "Too bad we couldn't get Trump as well?" Of course we know they're desperately trying. Donald Trump is not perfect but he's so much better than any other option Red America has had since Reagen, that there is no sane reason for Nick to be attacking Trump, other than recognizing that the devil has gotten hold of Nick's mind.