Pardon Me, Do You Have The Epstein Files?

[Marcus]

You'll never understand it because MAGAtes ignore the criticism (they obviously can't defend it). They'd rather "whatabout" all day. They pretend that a pedophile ring run out of the basement of a pizza parlor is the worst thing in the world (because it's run by Democrats, ya see... awful, awful Democrats), but would completely rationalize it away if they suspected the GOP running it. It's not a crime to them if the GOP does it.

At that point, they'll say idiotic things like, "It's in the past. Can't we all just move on?" Here's a news flash for these damned idiots: all crimes committed that we know about are in the past. Morons.

So yeah, it's reasonable to consider his supporters are or wish to be just as corrupt. They way they lie about everything makes that possibility a probability.

I'm not comfortable just assigning a lack of intellect to it. Sure, there's plenty of research about political ideology and cognition, pattern recognition, emotional intelligence, IQ, etc. There have even been a few brain scan studies showing people who adhere to certain ideologies tend to have more pronounced activation of certain areas, with reduced brain density in others. That can certainly help explain some of Trump's appeal, but you'll find no shortage of low-information, cognitively impaired Democrat voters out there too.

About all I can ever get back to is, "humans are complicated." I have an uncle that's a Trumper. He has a Masters from Pepperdine in psychology. Served in the military, and retired as an officer. He definitely has a penchant for being a bully, but he's also immensely charitable. He has far more than enough money to simply retire in luxury, but instead he currently dedicates his time and money to buying dilapidated homes back east and in the south, renovating them, and partnering with charities to find homeless people who struggle with substance abuse to give them an opportunity to be housed, get treatment, and gain employment. On "paper," he checks off all of the boxes that would normally indicate an anti-Trumper. Educated, former high-ranking military, charitable, empathetic, etc. Yet, he is all in on Trump. He also regularly amplifies RFK's reality-detached nonsense. He's devoutly LDS, and lives in Utah, so I'm sure there's a level of social/tribal identity that defaults to "Republicans good, Democrats bad," but I just don't know how far that can carry as I have other devoutly LDS family members in Utah that are unabashedly anti-Trump.

My best friend's mom is another individual that makes it impossible for me to simply dismiss Trump support as a one-dimension thing. She's the epitome of Christlike love, unimpeachable morals, and selfless devotion. She also supports Trump.

Granted, neither of these people are full-on cultists, flying Trump flags, and wearing his mark on their foreheads, but they are unapologetically supporters of the rapist-in-chief.

Smart people get conned every day. Compassionate people are tricked into doing cruel things every day. Propaganda is a thing, because it works for multiple ideologies. Humans are complicated, and I don't think support of Trump can be distilled down into a neat little package. Are there people that support him primarily because of his cruelty, barbarism, and racism? Absolutely. Are there people that support him because he's unapologetically brutish and crass misogynist that lacks any discernable ethics or morals? Of course there are. But I think these people, while often the loudest and most visible voices, represent a minority.

Humans are complicated. Much to my delight... and perpetual consternation.

Excellent points. I think it's fair to note that with respect to LDS members who support Trump, they come from backgrounds where they have had generations of practice turning a blind eye to very, very serious issues that would utterly compromise one's integrity if they were openly discussed, apparently just to keep the peace. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

[Some Schmo]

Excellent points. I think it's fair to note that with respect to LDS members who support Trump, they come from backgrounds where they have had generations of practice turning a blind eye to very, very serious issues that would utterly compromise one's integrity if they were openly discussed, apparently just to keep the peace. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

This is a really interesting observation, Marcus.

I have no doubt that subculture and groupthink are huge contributors to the MAGAte phenomenon. I guess I categorize that participation under willful ignorance/denial for the team (especially if you view the team as your lifeline).

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Word on the street, about 100 Republicans are planning a jail break and are going to vote for full disclosure on the Epstein files. Well. When the Unconstitutional Closeted Speaker of the Dead House actually gets the House back into session.

This will almost certainly cause the Maggot pedos on this board to burst a vein.

- Doc

Cautionary note for all: Please do not accuse any individual board member of being a pedo. This post does not do that but it skirts that line. -c-