The GOP is Anti-American

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Re: The GOP is Anti-American

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bill4long wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 7:32 am
Some Schmo wrote:
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Obviously.

The party platform is treason, and the personality required is asshole.

Not sure how anyone could argue that without lying their ass off (which is how MAGAtes generally converse).
Please define "American", so I know exactly what you mean by "anti."

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Good question. ‘American’ as applies to any individual? Or a concept, or set of ideals?

I could make an argument that any one of those Republican Party fellows participating in the leaked Signal chats and blithely tossing about Nazi references and Hitler compliments also believe that they are ‘American’, but the ideals that they’re promoting don’t meet that definition.
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Reagan: “Tariffs are bad.”

Shitler: “Reagan loved tariffs!”

Maggots: “Reagan loved tariffs!”

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

You stupid damned edge lord white Christian nationalists are so far gone you can’t even trusty your own damned eyes. Throwing our democracy because you’re too goddamn stupid to understand what you have. damned shameful,
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Re: The GOP is Anti-American

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canpakes wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 6:09 pm
bill4long wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 7:32 am
Please define "American", so I know exactly what you mean by "anti."

Thanks
Good question. ‘American’ as applies to any individual? Or a concept, or set of ideals?

I could make an argument that any one of those Republican Party fellows participating in the leaked Signal chats and blithely tossing about Nazi references and Hitler compliments also believe that they are ‘American’, but the ideals that they’re promoting don’t meet that definition.
Those young adults are an extremely small sample. I suspect you'd be surprised if you had access to all the texts of young adults, esp males, on all sides of the political spectrum. They say the darnest things.
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Re: The GOP is Anti-American

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bill4long wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 7:20 pm
canpakes wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 6:09 pm
Good question. ‘American’ as applies to any individual? Or a concept, or set of ideals?

I could make an argument that any one of those Republican Party fellows participating in the leaked Signal chats and blithely tossing about Nazi references and Hitler compliments also believe that they are ‘American’, but the ideals that they’re promoting don’t meet that definition.
Those young adults are an extremely small sample. I suspect you'd be surprised if you had access to all the texts of young adults, esp males, on all sides of the political spectrum. They say the darnest things.
Absolutely. But this segment of the ‘young male’ population, being between 25 and 40 years old (not exactly’young’) and being groomed for leadership positions within one of the two viable political parties that Americans can choose from, should perhaps be held to better standards than actual young men hanging out at the local watering hole.

Instead, we have a VP calling them ‘kids’ in an effort to characterize them as just being ‘kids’, and making excuses for them.
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bill4long wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 7:20 pm
canpakes wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 6:09 pm
Good question. ‘American’ as applies to any individual? Or a concept, or set of ideals?

I could make an argument that any one of those Republican Party fellows participating in the leaked Signal chats and blithely tossing about Nazi references and Hitler compliments also believe that they are ‘American’, but the ideals that they’re promoting don’t meet that definition.
Those young adults are an extremely small sample.
Chat participants:
  • Bobby Walker, vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans. Age 26 or 27.
  • Peter Giunta, vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans. Age 31 or 32.
  • Joseph Maligno, general counsel for the New York State Young Republicans. Age unknown; has been a licensed attorney for 7 years.
  • Alex Dwyer, chair of the Kansas Young Republicans. Age 29.
  • William Hendrix, vice chair of the Kansas Youn Republicans. Age 24.
  • Annie KayKaty, national committee member for the New York State Young Republicans. Age unknown; earned a college degree in 2020.
  • Luke Mosiman, chair of Arizona Young Republicans. Age unknown; earned a college degree in 2023.
  • Samuel Douglass, Vermont State Senator and chair of Vermont Young Republicans. Age 27.
  • Brianna Douglass, member of Vermont Young Republicans. Age unknown; married to Senator Samuel Douglass.
They say the darnest things.
Yep. It was in all the papers.
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Re: The GOP is Anti-American

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canpakes wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 8:00 pm
bill4long wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 7:20 pm


Those young adults are an extremely small sample. I suspect you'd be surprised if you had access to all the texts of young adults, esp males, on all sides of the political spectrum. They say the darnest things.
Absolutely. But this segment of the ‘young male’ population, being between 25 and 40 years old (not exactly’young’) and being groomed for leadership positions within one of the two viable political parties that Americans can choose from, should perhaps be held to better standards than actual young men hanging out at the local watering hole.

Instead, we have a VP calling them ‘kids’ in an effort to characterize them as just being ‘kids’, and making excuses for them.
How many young men were involved in those leaked texts?

Question: would you be okay with your private texts leaked?

How old are you, how many male children have you had, how many are young adults?

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Re: The GOP is Anti-American

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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 8:53 pm
bill4long wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 7:20 pm


Those young adults are an extremely small sample.
Chat participants:
  • Bobby Walker, vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans. Age 26 or 27.
  • Peter Giunta, vice chair of the New York State Young Republicans. Age 31 or 32.
  • Joseph Maligno, general counsel for the New York State Young Republicans. Age unknown; has been a licensed attorney for 7 years.
  • Alex Dwyer, chair of the Kansas Young Republicans. Age 29.
  • William Hendrix, vice chair of the Kansas Youn Republicans. Age 24.
  • Annie KayKaty, national committee member for the New York State Young Republicans. Age unknown; earned a college degree in 2020.
  • Luke Mosiman, chair of Arizona Young Republicans. Age unknown; earned a college degree in 2023.
  • Samuel Douglass, Vermont State Senator and chair of Vermont Young Republicans. Age 27.
  • Brianna Douglass, member of Vermont Young Republicans. Age unknown; married to Senator Samuel Douglass.
They say the darnest things.
Yep. It was in all the papers.
Young people say the stupidest things in private. Esp young men.

Literally no mature Republican agreed, and absolultely denounced such shenanigans. The sample is unscientific: the whistle-blowers only released the texts most favorable to the whistle-blowers' agenda. (Cherry picking.) Let's see a sample that's representative of all of the young adult texters. And the democrat texters too.

If you think their texts have some sort of worrisome statistical weight with regard to Republicans in general, you're going to have to prove it. You haven't done so, and neither have the whistle-blowers. You might want to get help sharpening up your analytical skills

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bill4long wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:11 am
The sample is unscientific:
Of course it isn't. Did someone say it was?
If you think their texts have some sort of worrisome statistical weight with regard to Republicans in general,
I don't think their texts have some sort of worrisome statistical weight with regard to anything.
You might want to get help sharpening up your analytical skills
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Re: The GOP is Anti-American

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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:45 am
bill4long wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:11 am
The sample is unscientific:
Of course it isn't. Did someone say it was?
If you think their texts have some sort of worrisome statistical weight with regard to Republicans in general,
I don't think their texts have some sort of worrisome statistical weight with regard to anything.
You quoted me and canpakes so I assumed this was a round-table. Forgive me if it isn't.
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I had New York steak grilled with charcoal and mesquite w/ baked potato and root beer. I assume Bill is bothered by the fact that Ronald Reagan denounced tariffs. :lol: Why not just say these young guys can't be Republicans because they believe in tariffs and be done with it?
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