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canpakes wrote:
Sat Nov 01, 2025 3:40 pm
It would help to see what claims the wider scientific community has made about climate change that Hound disagrees with, and why. As this is now, it’s just another complaint by Hound about a Marxist conspiracy that he cannot define and that doesn’t exist. And the complaint comes from the same gang that thinks that chemtrails exist as a government plot to subdue and control them.
Hound repeats his mantra about Marx but if asked what that is suppose to be and who are the leaders we hear robotic repetition of the same things not answering the question.
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huckelberry wrote:
Sat Nov 01, 2025 11:32 pm
canpakes wrote:
Sat Nov 01, 2025 3:40 pm
It would help to see what claims the wider scientific community has made about climate change that Hound disagrees with, and why. As this is now, it’s just another complaint by Hound about a Marxist conspiracy that he cannot define and that doesn’t exist. And the complaint comes from the same gang that thinks that chemtrails exist as a government plot to subdue and control them.
Hound repeats his mantra about Marx but if asked what that is suppose to be and who are the leaders we hear robotic repetition of the same things not answering the question.
Would you say he had Marx Derangement syndrome or DCP derangement syndrome? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Nov 02, 2025 2:45 am
huckelberry wrote:
Sat Nov 01, 2025 11:32 pm
Hound repeats his mantra about Marx but if asked what that is suppose to be and who are the leaders we hear robotic repetition of the same things not answering the question.
Would you say he had Marx Derangement syndrome or DCP derangement syndrome? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
A Jordan Peterson phrase , ideologically possessed, crossed my mind.
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Why This Country Runs Almost Entirely on Clean Power

Why can Uruguay achieve getting 98% of its electrical energy via renewable, environmentally benign sources, why can't our country, the wealthiest, most powerful and supposedly most technologically advanced country on earth not do likewise? I'll tell you why! There is determined, concerted effort by the greediest, wealthiest and most selfish corporations on earth to prevent this from happening! And they don't care how many people are hurt or how much environmental damage they cause to prevent it.
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Five Trends that Businesses Need to Know Going into Climate Week NYC
Despite federal headwinds, state and local progress is undeniable and markets and economics remain powerful engines driving the energy transition both at home and abroad.
September 8, 2025
By Jon Creyts

1. The energy transition is forging ahead in 80 percent of the world
Since 2020, total investment in the energy transition has grown year after year — and momentum is only building. In 2024, China led with $818 billion, with the EU and United States following at $380 billion and $338 billion respectively. Together, these figures point to the accelerating scale of global investment carrying into 2025 and beyond.

The Global South is poised to drive the next wave of growth over the next 25 years. With population and economic expansion, clean energy portfolios are quickly becoming the least-cost option available in many markets. In India, some 93 percent of investment for power generation is going to clean sources, and solar-plus-storage is already cheaper than coal on a life-cycle basis. Renewables are expected to supply most of India’s new generation, and non-fossil sources already account for more than 50 percent of existing capacity.

The Global South is forging ahead in electrified transportation as well. In 2024, annual sales of EVs more than doubled in Brazil and Africa. More than half of all car sales in China will be electric in 2025, and India is the world’s largest electric three-wheeler market with approximately 700,000 electric three-wheelers sold in 2024. Our analysis shows that due to falling battery costs, EVs will make up between 62 and 86 percent of global car sales by 2030.

But obstacles remain high. Geopolitical tensions, armed conflict, and growing nationalism create barriers for global supply chains and initiatives across OECD countries. Fortunately, the energy transition will continue to move forward in much of the Global South for a simple reason: it just makes economic sense. For businesses, the choice is whether to keep pace with this momentum or risk being left behind.

2. Modernizing the grid is the key to unlocking energy transition leadership
Across all my work, I keep hearing about the perfect storm of spiking electricity demand, driven by AI data centers, new manufacturing, vehicle and appliance electrification, and extreme heat. Regardless of where in the world you sit, there is a need for increased electrons. Our need for electricity is actually growing at twice the rate of our increasing energy demand.

Here in the United States, we need to connect terawatts of clean energy to the grid at a time with slow interconnection processes and gas turbine delivery delays. The convergence of these pressures, coupled with the digitalization of grid infrastructure, provides a once-in-a-generation opportunity to fundamentally reform how power systems operate.

The United States has invested trillions in the grid since the 1950s, creating one of the most remarkable machines on the planet. But today, that grid runs at only 40 percent utilization. No capital-intensive asset should be deployed at that level when alternatives exist. Initial investments have already been made in batteries, rooftop solar, and demand response from factories, but more remains to do. Other innovative models like virtual power plants, grid-enhancing technologies, reconductoring, and digitalization, plus energy efficiency, can make the American grid the center point of economic competitiveness in this increasingly electrified world. A focus only on adding supply, however, risks perpetuating inefficiency and decreases international competitiveness. The United States should first target getting more from the assets that it has already paid for, not adding costly infrastructure onto an aging system.The US should first target getting more from the assets that it has already paid for – where timelines frequently are faster for upgrade – even as it considers additional options for new generation for replacement and addition.

If the United States approaches the opportunity in the right way, it can increase competitiveness and affordability. Tackling this will require new approaches to regulation and policy. But the country has achieved this outcome before: in the 1980’s and 90’s, rates went down for customers even as service improved and the grid expanded.

3. Insurance is reaching its tipping point, but joint action can open new pathways
Extreme weather events can destroy assets in a moment and disrupt supply chains overnight. Chronic weather shifts — drought, sea level rise, and wildfires — are threatening companies and eroding whole industries, like Florida’s citrus industry. Although climate-related weather disasters can hit anywhere at any time, the risks are concentrated in states with a high contributions to US GDP, like Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, and Illinois.

Insurance is the economy’s shock absorber, but it has limits. Globally, roughly 60 percent of disaster losses go uninsured. And once an asset becomes uninsurable, its value can collapse overnight — wiping out equity, eroding municipal tax bases, and destabilizing credit portfolios. At scale, this can be a major problem for a country with some of the most expensive assets in the world. Think 2008’s housing crash, but driven by wind, water, and fire instead of bad loans.

The frustrating part? Resilience is one of the best investments available. Allstate and the US Chamber of Commerce peg the return at $13 for every $1 spent. Yet the capital flows aren’t there due to collective action problems, low standardization, and short-term thinking. In corporate terms: it’s like knowing the factory roof leaks but refusing to fix it because it doesn’t always rain.

We’ve solved for these same challenges in the banking sector, through RMI’s Center for Climate-Aligned Finance. If insurers and banks can work more closely on resilience, the market can do the rest. Expect more engagement on this issue at Climate Week and beyond.

4. Industrial transformation is still possible
Heavy industry is called “hard-to-abate” for a reason: outside of China, economics are not yet on the side of decarbonization. Sectors like steel, chemicals, and cement remain in early adoption economics with limited cost-competitiveness and shallow learning curves on requisite decarbonization technologies. Many global companies can invest only limited funds in these new solutions, and continue with business as usual for the majority of their assets, hoping that long-term solutions like carbon capture ultimately become available. Scaling up new technologies requires a clearer path from first-of-a-kind projects to widespread deployment, and policy interventions will be required to move competitive commodity industries across geographies.

The International Maritime Organization is showing what is possible: by assigning a global carbon price that will come into effect in 2027, it is beginning to shift behaviors across global shipping. Aviation is not far behind. But other industries will need clearer signals. Voluntary buyer groups can play a critical role in the near term, but long-term transformation will require government procurement leverage and policy incentives — including carbon pricing — to send unambiguous market signals.

RMI is working to grow demand for lower-emissions products to drive investment into innovative heavy industry and transport technologies while giving companies credible tools to meet their sustainability goals. By aggregating demand for steel, cement, chemicals, and aluminum, we are building market systems that support deep decarbonization. Keep an eye out for news about the latest concrete demand initiative, launching at Climate Week.

5. Carbon markets need credibility
The Voluntary Carbon Market (VCM) has long held promise, but today it suffers from inconsistent standards, data opacity, and market fragmentation. Without trust, businesses are losing faith and stepping back. At the same time, regulatory approaches are gaining ground. The European Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism is one example that is challenging global businesses to count emissions. Some companies are going a step further and pushing for carbon accounting systems based on standards akin to GAAP, which could differentiate performance without voluntary markets, and might ultimately drive global policy alignment. Virtually every major company is counting its carbon, so why not harmonize methods and create a much more thorough ledger of activity?

RMI’s Carbon Markets Initiative is working to provide that foundation through an open, standardized data framework. During Climate Week, we’ll feature our new Carbon Data Open Protocol which standardizes carbon market data to improve integrity, interoperability, and scale.

The direction is clear: the markets that succeed will be those built on transparency and integrity.
The fact is that much of this change to renewable, sustainable energy is going to happen, whether our country participates or not. If we do not, we will increasingly find ourselves at a great economic disadvantage compared to most of the rest of the world, like it or not!
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Gunnar wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:19 pm
Five Trends that Businesses Need to Know Going into Climate Week NYC
Despite federal headwinds, state and local progress is undeniable and markets and economics remain powerful engines driving the energy transition both at home and abroad.
September 8, 2025
By Jon Creyts

1. The energy transition is forging ahead in 80 percent of the world
Since 2020, total investment in the energy transition has grown year after year — and momentum is only building. In 2024, China led with $818 billion, with the EU and United States following at $380 billion and $338 billion respectively. Together, these figures point to the accelerating scale of global investment carrying into 2025 and beyond.

The Global South is poised to drive the next wave of growth over the next 25 years. With population and economic expansion, clean energy portfolios are quickly becoming the least-cost option available in many markets. In India, some 93 percent of investment for power generation is going to clean sources, and solar-plus-storage is already cheaper than coal on a life-cycle basis. Renewables are expected to supply most of India’s new generation, and non-fossil sources already account for more than 50 percent of existing capacity.

The Global South is forging ahead in electrified transportation as well. In 2024, annual sales of EVs more than doubled in Brazil and Africa. More than half of all car sales in China will be electric in 2025, and India is the world’s largest electric three-wheeler market with approximately 700,000 electric three-wheelers sold in 2024. Our analysis shows that due to falling battery costs, EVs will make up between 62 and 86 percent of global car sales by 2030.

But obstacles remain high. Geopolitical tensions, armed conflict, and growing nationalism create barriers for global supply chains and initiatives across OECD countries. Fortunately, the energy transition will continue to move forward in much of the Global South for a simple reason: it just makes economic sense. For businesses, the choice is whether to keep pace with this momentum or risk being left behind.

2. Modernizing the grid is the key to unlocking energy transition leadership
Across all my work, I keep hearing about the perfect storm of spiking electricity demand, driven by AI data centers, new manufacturing, vehicle and appliance electrification, and extreme heat. Regardless of where in the world you sit, there is a need for increased electrons. Our need for electricity is actually growing at twice the rate of our increasing energy demand.

Here in the United States, we need to connect terawatts of clean energy to the grid at a time with slow interconnection processes and gas turbine delivery delays. The convergence of these pressures, coupled with the digitalization of grid infrastructure, provides a once-in-a-generation opportunity to fundamentally reform how power systems operate.

The United States has invested trillions in the grid since the 1950s, creating one of the most remarkable machines on the planet. But today, that grid runs at only 40 percent utilization. No capital-intensive asset should be deployed at that level when alternatives exist. Initial investments have already been made in batteries, rooftop solar, and demand response from factories, but more remains to do. Other innovative models like virtual power plants, grid-enhancing technologies, reconductoring, and digitalization, plus energy efficiency, can make the American grid the center point of economic competitiveness in this increasingly electrified world. A focus only on adding supply, however, risks perpetuating inefficiency and decreases international competitiveness. The United States should first target getting more from the assets that it has already paid for, not adding costly infrastructure onto an aging system.The US should first target getting more from the assets that it has already paid for – where timelines frequently are faster for upgrade – even as it considers additional options for new generation for replacement and addition.

If the United States approaches the opportunity in the right way, it can increase competitiveness and affordability. Tackling this will require new approaches to regulation and policy. But the country has achieved this outcome before: in the 1980’s and 90’s, rates went down for customers even as service improved and the grid expanded.

3. Insurance is reaching its tipping point, but joint action can open new pathways
Extreme weather events can destroy assets in a moment and disrupt supply chains overnight. Chronic weather shifts — drought, sea level rise, and wildfires — are threatening companies and eroding whole industries, like Florida’s citrus industry. Although climate-related weather disasters can hit anywhere at any time, the risks are concentrated in states with a high contributions to US GDP, like Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, and Illinois.

Insurance is the economy’s shock absorber, but it has limits. Globally, roughly 60 percent of disaster losses go uninsured. And once an asset becomes uninsurable, its value can collapse overnight — wiping out equity, eroding municipal tax bases, and destabilizing credit portfolios. At scale, this can be a major problem for a country with some of the most expensive assets in the world. Think 2008’s housing crash, but driven by wind, water, and fire instead of bad loans.

The frustrating part? Resilience is one of the best investments available. Allstate and the US Chamber of Commerce peg the return at $13 for every $1 spent. Yet the capital flows aren’t there due to collective action problems, low standardization, and short-term thinking. In corporate terms: it’s like knowing the factory roof leaks but refusing to fix it because it doesn’t always rain.

We’ve solved for these same challenges in the banking sector, through RMI’s Center for Climate-Aligned Finance. If insurers and banks can work more closely on resilience, the market can do the rest. Expect more engagement on this issue at Climate Week and beyond.

4. Industrial transformation is still possible
Heavy industry is called “hard-to-abate” for a reason: outside of China, economics are not yet on the side of decarbonization. Sectors like steel, chemicals, and cement remain in early adoption economics with limited cost-competitiveness and shallow learning curves on requisite decarbonization technologies. Many global companies can invest only limited funds in these new solutions, and continue with business as usual for the majority of their assets, hoping that long-term solutions like carbon capture ultimately become available. Scaling up new technologies requires a clearer path from first-of-a-kind projects to widespread deployment, and policy interventions will be required to move competitive commodity industries across geographies.

The International Maritime Organization is showing what is possible: by assigning a global carbon price that will come into effect in 2027, it is beginning to shift behaviors across global shipping. Aviation is not far behind. But other industries will need clearer signals. Voluntary buyer groups can play a critical role in the near term, but long-term transformation will require government procurement leverage and policy incentives — including carbon pricing — to send unambiguous market signals.

RMI is working to grow demand for lower-emissions products to drive investment into innovative heavy industry and transport technologies while giving companies credible tools to meet their sustainability goals. By aggregating demand for steel, cement, chemicals, and aluminum, we are building market systems that support deep decarbonization. Keep an eye out for news about the latest concrete demand initiative, launching at Climate Week.

5. Carbon markets need credibility
The Voluntary Carbon Market (VCM) has long held promise, but today it suffers from inconsistent standards, data opacity, and market fragmentation. Without trust, businesses are losing faith and stepping back. At the same time, regulatory approaches are gaining ground. The European Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism is one example that is challenging global businesses to count emissions. Some companies are going a step further and pushing for carbon accounting systems based on standards akin to GAAP, which could differentiate performance without voluntary markets, and might ultimately drive global policy alignment. Virtually every major company is counting its carbon, so why not harmonize methods and create a much more thorough ledger of activity?

RMI’s Carbon Markets Initiative is working to provide that foundation through an open, standardized data framework. During Climate Week, we’ll feature our new Carbon Data Open Protocol which standardizes carbon market data to improve integrity, interoperability, and scale.

The direction is clear: the markets that succeed will be those built on transparency and integrity.
The fact is that much of this change to renewable, sustainable energy is going to happen, whether our country participates or not. If we do not, we will increasingly find ourselves at a great economic disadvantage compared to most of the rest of the world, like it or not!
According to your sources and link, the US is pissing away 338 billion on this hoaky BS. I would consider that participation.
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Whiskey wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:58 pm
According to your sources and link, the US is pissing away 338 billion on this hoaky BS. I would consider that participation.
How can you continue to maintain that this is hoaky BS, when abundant evidence clearly shows that renewable energy now costs less than fossil fueled plants! Why do you blindly believe the billions of dollars worth of fossil fueled propaganda to "debunk" renewable energy sources? Do you see any other motivation for them doing that other than their own, selfish, self interest? Do really believe that the 97+% of scientists who confirm the reality of man caused climate change are all charlatans or incompetents? The RMI's data and research on this and the efficacy of their initiatives, like it or not, are very well documented and credible. They clearly know an awful lot more about this than you or I do!

Why are you so skeptical about this? Do you own a lot of stock in fossil fuel companies?

ETA: And yes, despite conservative opposition, there is still some participation by U.S. entities addressing these problems. I applaud that and hope to see more of it for our own economic and health sakes. I hope Trump doesn't succeed in stopping all of it!
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Don’t look up!
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:53 pm
Don’t look up!
Exactly!
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Whiskey wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:58 pm
According to your sources and link, the US is pissing away 338 billion on this hoaky BS. I would consider that participation.
You should have just said that you don’t understand what’s happening, or why. It would have saved you a few words.

Anyhow, try explaining why China spent $818 billion on ‘hokey BS’.
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