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NFL, Injuries, Health and Crisis

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:06 pm
by Whiskey
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/468 ... nd-dies-24

FRISCO, Texas -- Dallas Cowboys defensive end Marshawn Kneeland died Thursday morning from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot, according to law authorities.

The team put out a statement Thursday but did not mention a cause of death.

"It is with extreme sadness that the Dallas Cowboys share that Marshawn Kneeland tragically passed away this morning. Marshawn was a beloved teammate and member of our organization. Our thoughts and prayers regarding Marshawn are with his girlfriend Catalina and his family."

Kneeland was 24.
This is some sad stuff. Very sad. Tragic.

We have real problems. Something has to get better.

Re: NFL, Injuries, Health and Crisis

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:09 pm
by Jersey Girl
I don't claim to know who he was but I did see the headline about it. Our mental health care system is essentially broken. That's a fact that I know from in real life experience over the years. Too many people go undiagnosed and therefore untreated. Proposals to gun rights re: tagging folks with mental illness (treated or not) are probably scaring the hell out of some of our citizens who are in need of treatment. Folks in contact sports are candidates for TBI and it's possible that they avoid getting checked due to fear of losing income. As for facilitating a 72 hour hold it doesn't matter if it's voluntary or involuntary good luck finding an open bed.

That is all I really have to say about the topic except that he was far too young to die this way though at his age he was at risk for mental illness due to his stage of brain development. Now his family is left to navigate complicated grief as suicide survivors which takes several years to recover from with ongoing therapy and appropriate treatment if they even make it out of their grief/trauma state alive.

It's all horridly tragic in my view. Been there.

Re: NFL, Injuries, Health and Crisis

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:23 am
by Whiskey
Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:09 pm
I don't claim to know who he was but I did see the headline about it. Our mental health care system is essentially broken. That's a fact that I know from in real life experience over the years. Too many people go undiagnosed and therefore untreated. Proposals to gun rights re: tagging folks with mental illness (treated or not) are probably scaring the hell out of some of our citizens who are in need of treatment. Folks in contact sports are candidates for TBI and it's possible that they avoid getting checked due to fear of losing income. As for facilitating a 72 hour hold it doesn't matter if it's voluntary or involuntary good luck finding an open bed.

That is all I really have to say about the topic except that he was far too young to die this way though at his age he was at risk for mental illness due to his stage of brain development. Now his family is left to navigate complicated grief as suicide survivors which takes several years to recover from with ongoing therapy and appropriate treatment if they even make it out of their grief/trauma state alive.

It's all horridly tragic in my view. Been there.
Every word of this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

This kind of tragedy hits hard. Honestly, sometimes I think it doesn’t hit hard enough, because as a community, we don’t seem to learn or get any better at preventing it.

I was once called in for an emergency repair—on Veterans Day—in a psych lockdown ward for veterans. The contrast between the holiday’s symbolism and the reality inside that unit was… dark and stark. The kind of thing that sticks with you. Or, stuck with me. Hell, might not mean a damn thing to a damn nother person. Something about this headline and this story reminds me of that. Thursday night football will carry on. Week 9 or ten or whatever it is will happen all the same. College athletes will play for billionaires and sports betting companies and finish without degrees and without support. And, we will tune in, again, for the playoffs or something like that.