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Trump, carriers, catapults ... and China

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:46 pm
by Chap
See in Washington Post:

China’s new aircraft supercarrier challenges U.S. dominance in Pacific
The Fujian and its strike group represent a strategic game changer that will bring Beijing closer to its goal of eroding U.S. maritime primacy in its backyard.


Do you remember how Trump told everybody how bad it was to use electromagnetic catapults to launch planes from carriers? Because a glass of water stops magnets working? And he was going to make everybody use steam catapults instead? Well, the article says:
Now, the launch of the Fujian will bring Beijing closer to its goal of eroding U.S. maritime primacy in its backyard, not least because the warship uses electromagnetic catapults to launch planes, making China the only the country, after United States, to have developed and built this technology.

“It’s not a small jump,” Goldstein said of the Fujian’s catapults. “It’s literally doubling or tripling — maybe even quadrupling — the combat lethality.”

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Underscoring how central the Fujian is to this goal, state broadcaster CCTV last week reported that Xi “personally” made the decision to adopt electromagnetic catapult technology. During the launch ceremony on the southern military stronghold of Hainan, Xi — dressed in a green military shirt — pressed the catapult button and sent the launch shuttle forward “like an arrow leaving the string of a bow,” CCTV said.
What a pity that Xi Jinping does not have Trump's deep insight into the physics of magnetism! All that money wasted ... oh, wait ...

Any Trump supporter here want to say whether they think this man is qualified to be commander-in-chief? Should we feel safer knowing he is making the decisions?

Re: Trump, carriers, catapults ... and China

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 11:36 pm
by ¥akaSteelhead
Carriers are big floating targets, legacy objects of wars past.

Hypersonic missiles and drones are the future.

Re: Trump, carriers, catapults ... and China

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:23 am
by Chap
¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 11:36 pm
Carriers are big floating targets, legacy objects of wars past.

Hypersonic missiles and drones are the future.
I think you may find that the relative usefulness of carrier strike groups depends on the kind of war you think you may be fighting. Try turning the question round ...

Given that China, which is not a country led by stupid people (lucky China!), has invested a huge amount of money in constructing this aircraft carrier, as well as (and this is essential) all the ships it needs as partners to make up an effective strike group, what kind of war might China be preparing for, do you think?

If the Trumpification of the Pentagon has left a few intelligent people in the section that looks at world politics and long-term strategy, they will have been discussing this question for some time already ...

Re: Trump, carriers, catapults ... and China

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:36 pm
by Dr. Shades
Chap wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:46 pm
What a pity that Xi Jinping does not have Trump's deep insight into the physics of magnetism! All that money wasted ... oh, wait ...

Any Trump supporter here want to say whether they think this man is qualified to be commander-in-chief?
I'm not a Trump supporter, but yes, I think Xi Jinping is qualified to be their commander-in-chief.
Should we feel safer knowing he is making the decisions?
No, because Xi is working against us.

Re: Trump, carriers, catapults ... and China

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:41 pm
by Chap
Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:36 pm
Chap wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:46 pm
What a pity that Xi Jinping does not have Trump's deep insight into the physics of magnetism! All that money wasted ... oh, wait ...

Any Trump supporter here want to say whether they think this man is qualified to be commander-in-chief?
I'm not a Trump supporter, but yes, I think Xi Jinping is qualified to be their commander-in-chief.
Should we feel safer knowing he is making the decisions?
No, because Xi is working against us.
I'm sorry if you found my reference to 'this man' ambiguous. It was intended as a reference to Trump.

Re: Trump, carriers, catapults ... and China

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:44 pm
by Dr. Shades
Chap wrote:
Sat Nov 15, 2025 1:41 pm
I'm sorry if you found my reference to 'this man' ambiguous. It was intended as a reference to Trump.
Oh. OOPS!