Trump pardons drug trafficker Juan Orlando Hernandez

[canpakes]

That hasn’t worked out.

There are alternatives that are more fitting, though:

Perfect.

Another promotion for Trump. What the “F” ever is so hard about this? It is goddamn hysterical. Cracks me up, every, damned, time.

The same thing is true about the Jimmys and and colbert and all those idiots. Night after night after night, crapping on Trump - they think. But that ain't how it works. They soothe the already tilted folks and shun the rest. As huck said, it gets boring, at best.

Thanks for putting so much importance on me, but I don’t think this matters much. At least not as much as grocery, housing, healthcare and energy prices, and that’s not going too well for Americans, or Trump.

[canpakes]

The so-called Christians who voted for this, and are on this board are rightfully shamed.

I understand the blithering idiot will keep spouting off and seething because some women didn’t think much of him, his truck, and his work, but the fact the supposedly “good” people are silent about the Maniac in Chief doing something like this is unpardonable, forgive the pun.

Hey, pardoning ex-drug lords that will write a check to a Trump LLC later is good business for Trump. None of Trump’s BS and grifting matters to the MAGA base, as long as the base gets to feel good about hating on immigrants.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

When your President pardons drug dealers, and you still believe his military attacks are to prevent drugs, you’re a special kind of stupid.

[Dr. Shades]

When your President pardons drug dealers, and you still believe his military attacks are to prevent drugs, you’re a special kind of stupid.

Isn't the suggestion that his military attacks are for a reason other than to prevent drugs (from entering the country) dangerously close to a conspiracy theory?

[Chap]

When your President pardons drug dealers, and you still believe his military attacks are to prevent drugs, you’re a special kind of stupid.

Isn't the suggestion that his military attacks are for a reason other than to prevent drugs (from entering the country) dangerously close to a conspiracy theory?

A "conspiracy theory" is something crazy, like: "There is a huge network of elite pedophiles operating out of the basement of a pizza restaurant" or "There has been a multi-decade cover-up by NASA to stop people finding out that they never got to the moon and it was all done in a studio" or "we are really governed by the lizard people disguised as humans".

The idea that Trump might just be sinking boats in order to make himself look a tough guy to his (shrinking) base, and that in fact he knows pretty well that these boats are not carrying fentanyl to the US is an idea that anyone acquainted with Trump's totally instrumental and performative approach to politics could entertain without having to hold any implausible beliefs. It is not necessarily true (I don't know myself), but it is in a different league to the kinds of theories mentioned in the previous paragraph.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

When your President pardons drug dealers, and you still believe his military attacks are to prevent drugs, you’re a special kind of stupid.

Isn't the suggestion that his military attacks are for a reason other than to prevent drugs (from entering the country) dangerously close to a conspiracy theory?

What a stupid and shameful response to what I posted. I know you’re still massively butthurt from your retarded take on 9/11 being rightfully called out by the not-stupids on this board, but to make this thing you’re doing your shtick is disappointing.

Anyway. Shades inadvertently brought up a point. Is Venezuela known for producing and boating in fentanyl to the US? Also, where is most of the fentanyl consumed by Americans produced and by whom?

- Doc

[Chap]

Is Venezuela known for producing and boating in fentanyl to the US? Also, where is most of the fentanyl consumed by Americans produced and by whom?

Well there's this from 2020:

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files ... ates_0.pdf

No Venezuelan route in that US govt report. Mostly Mexico, direct over the border, no boats involved.

Same thing here:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/f ... 5000-lives

Most U.S. overdose deaths are because of fentanyl, a synthetic, often deadly opioid frequently present in illicit street drugs.Most illicit fentanyl in the U.S. comes from Mexico, not Venezuela, and is made with chemicals from Chinese labs. It enters the U.S. mainly through the southern border at official ports of entry, and it’s smuggled in mostly by U.S. citizens.

From: https://www.wlrn.org/americas/2025-09-2 ... -to-the-us

Provisional conclusion: It does not seem that Trump has grounds for his "we attack the boats because of fentanyl" claim. At the moment, other reasons (such as his wish to seem a tough guy for his base) seem much more plausible.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I just saw a CNN article explaining the boat that was double-tapped (illegal, by the way) by the Navy wasn’t even headed to the US! Great!

Anyone seen those Epstein files, yet?

[Chap]

I just saw a CNN article explaining the boat that was double-tapped (illegal, by the way) by the Navy wasn’t even headed to the US! Great!

Please link?

[canpakes]

When your President pardons drug dealers, and you still believe his military attacks are to prevent drugs, you’re a special kind of stupid.

Isn't the suggestion that his military attacks are for a reason other than to prevent drugs (from entering the country) dangerously close to a conspiracy theory?

Given the Trump Administration’s highly visible and highly publicized saber-rattling towards Venezuela - including spending millions of dollars to move billions of dollars worth of military hardware to close striking distance - it’s not irrational to see the military attacks against small boats as cover for the Administration’s moves and desire for regime change, as opposed to any sort of cost-effective strategy for drug interdiction.

If we supposedly know what the boats are carrying and where they’re going, then continuing to track them and meeting them where they approach shore would certainly be radically cheaper and just as - if not more - effective. You can toss your baddies in the slammer (or for MAGA folks, summarily execute them upon offload and drop their bodies back onto the sea), and confiscate a nice boat to sell later. No need to be spending money on loitering drones and expensive munitions.

Also, look where Venezuela is on the map, and tell me your thoughts on how a speedboat with a range of several hundred nautical miles is getting to US soil given the distance between the two countries.

A lot of things just don’t add up so well here.