PSA For Progressives: A Vehicle Is A Weapon. Minneapolis Women Dead After Driving Towards ICE Agent

[canpakes]

I'm confused: One of the criticisms leveled against Kyle Rittenhouse was that "he shouldn't have been there." Are the same people leveling the same criticism against Renee Good? If not, why not?

To compare, if the question is taken literally: Rittenhouse traveled 20 miles to inject himself into a protest. Good was killed just blocks from her home (I.e., her neighborhood).

Beyond that, there are some significant differences here.

Rittenhouse was armed, and ended up killing someone.

Good was unarmed, and arguably attempting to evade someone who had pulled a gun.

In a way, Good’s shooter compares more closely to Rittenhouse than Good does. He was not a resident of the area, he inserted himself into a questionable position of potential conflict, he was armed, he fired when he probably should not have, and he killed someone.



Why did he circle the vehicle, argue with a passenger, then position himself forward of the vehicle and draw his weapon when an officer was still conversing with Good?

[Jersey Girl]

Why did he circle the vehicle, argue with a passenger, then position himself forward of the vehicle and draw his weapon when an officer was still conversing with Good?

Check out the post I made about Dr. Razz's latest on what the shooter's motive was. He's got footage from the other side of the vehicle of Ms. Good's wife (?) mocking Mr. Ross. Right then...is when he switches his phone from right to left hand and takes out his weapon.

He was pissed off at the wife (I think it's her wife) disrespecting him, got pissed off and apparently his intent was at the very least...hostile.

I really meant to say he got pissed off, went into rage mode, and was determined to exact revenge.

ETA: After he shot Ms. Good and the car continued to move forward to depart the scene, he said "damned bitch"...still raging at that point.

[Jersey Girl]

Oh and just an aside...you don't move around the front of a running vehicle like that when approaching a suspect. Apparently he was untrained.

[canpakes]

Can someone (RI, Cam, Gunnar, Shades) take a look at this video that records what happened directly after the vehicle comes to a stop on the other side of the street from the driver's side and please tell me...what you think the officers are doing moving around the vehicle with what looks like bags? I think I see them taking something out of the car. There's a dog there. Canine unit or the victim's dog.

I'm mostly interested in the bags they're holding and if they're tampering with evidence. Tell me what you see going on there.

This is CNN.Just slide the slider up to the first video and you'll see what I'm talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_aDbXhJQ-U

There was a dog in the car. The still shot below comes from the shooter’s phone, when he was circling the Honda.



As far as what your video link is showing, I wouldn’t put it past that crew to be tampering with the evidence. Based on how we’ve seen the three top dogs in the ICE food chain (Trump, Vance and Noem) outright lie repeatedly about the incident, there’s no incentive to remain honest by anyone below in the chain of command. In fact, I’d wager - based on the behavior we’ve seen from the three I’ve just mentioned- that any honesty exhibited by an ICE team member regarding the circumstances and outcomes of this shooting would be punished by higher ups.

[Jersey Girl]

Can someone (RI, Cam, Gunnar, Shades) take a look at this video that records what happened directly after the vehicle comes to a stop on the other side of the street from the driver's side and please tell me...what you think the officers are doing moving around the vehicle with what looks like bags? I think I see them taking something out of the car. There's a dog there. Canine unit or the victim's dog.

I'm mostly interested in the bags they're holding and if they're tampering with evidence. Tell me what you see going on there.

This is CNN.Just slide the slider up to the first video and you'll see what I'm talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_aDbXhJQ-U

There was a dog in the car. The still shot below comes from the shooter’s phone, when he was circling the Honda.



As far as what your video link is showing, I wouldn’t put it past that crew to be tampering with the evidence. Based on how we’ve seen the three top dogs in the ICE food chain (Trump, Vance and Noem) outright lie repeatedly about the incident, there’s no incentive to remain honest by anyone below in the chain of command. In fact, I’d wager - based on the behavior we’ve seen from the three I’ve just mentioned- that any honesty exhibited by an ICE team member regarding the circumstances and outcomes of this shooting would be punished by higher ups.

I knew about the dog but hadn't noticed what it looked like, thanks! I really don't get what those bags are about. The video seems to have some blips in it which could be editing or... I don't know what that is.

I'm going to look at that again. An agent had his hand on the driver's side door. I didn't notice in the video that I linked if other agents who approached the vehicle touched that area themselves.

Talk about a team of absolute hacks.

ETA: Yeah, the agent that put his hands on the driver's side door to try to stop her prior to the shooting wore black gloves. The other agents that approached the car when it stopped look like they're wearing surgical gloves when they open the door. It looks like the bags came out of the car when the dog was being removed. One agent is seen moving the bags on the street.

The other thing is a woman (wife?) approached the car first, opened the door to try to help Ms. Good. This isn't in the video so we don't know if her hands were bare or gloved.

[Jersey Girl]

This really is a futile effort on our part. If it ever goes to trial there's apparently going to be a pissing contest between the state v. feds regarding the release of evidence. I was listening to BTC's legal expert (Glenn Kirschner?) saying how the state can force the hand of the feds so that it ends up a state case IN federal court.

I think it was from today.

It's almost 15 minutes but worth the listen. It really helped me to understand the mechanics of the legal system and how it can be used in a case like this.

Prosecutor drops MAJOR update on ICE shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvLFiCi95T8

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I'm confused: One of the criticisms leveled against Kyle Rittenhouse was that "he shouldn't have been there." Are the same people leveling the same criticism against Renee Good? If not, why not?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Can someone (RI, Cam, Gunnar, Shades) take a look at this video that records what happened directly after the vehicle comes to a stop on the other side of the street from the driver's side and please tell me...what you think the officers are doing moving around the vehicle with what looks like bags? I think I see them taking something out of the car. There's a dog there. Canine unit or the victim's dog.

I'm mostly interested in the bags they're holding and if they're tampering with evidence. Tell me what you see going on there.

This is CNN.Just slide the slider up to the first video and you'll see what I'm talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_aDbXhJQ-U

ETA: Check that second video. The one we've all seen. It's got a timer on it...all of that happened in 9 SECONDS.

I can’t really say; it’s too far away.

I do know from a different video that there was a doctor there that was denied access to the woman. He said, “I’m a doctor!” And the ICE thug said, “I don’t care!”

It’s astonishing to me that all these supposedly’limited/no government’ types always side with the government thugs in situations like this. He clearly executed that woman.

- Doc

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Oh and just an aside...you don't move around the front of a running vehicle like that when approaching a suspect. Apparently he was untrained.

He wasn’t “untrained”’ Jersey Girl. He was “streamlined” into his position. Sheesh. Don’t people know that just using a word like ‘streamlined’ makes his readiness 100% certified by the Administration?

[Jersey Girl]

Can someone (RI, Cam, Gunnar, Shades) take a look at this video that records what happened directly after the vehicle comes to a stop on the other side of the street from the driver's side and please tell me...what you think the officers are doing moving around the vehicle with what looks like bags? I think I see them taking something out of the car. There's a dog there. Canine unit or the victim's dog.

I'm mostly interested in the bags they're holding and if they're tampering with evidence. Tell me what you see going on there.

This is CNN.Just slide the slider up to the first video and you'll see what I'm talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_aDbXhJQ-U

ETA: Check that second video. The one we've all seen. It's got a timer on it...all of that happened in 9 SECONDS.

I can’t really say; it’s too far away.

I do know from a different video that there was a doctor there that was denied access to the woman. He said, “I’m a doctor!” And the ICE thug said, “I don’t care!”

It’s astonishing to me that all these supposedly’limited/no government’ types always side with the government thugs in situations like this. He clearly executed that woman.

- Doc

The footage of the doctor that I saw had him identify himself as you say. I didn't hear the "I don't care" but I DID hear the agent say "We have our own medics".

It's hard to grasp how fully screwed up this is.