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MAGAtes Have to Lie

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:03 am
by Some Schmo
In order to be a loyal diaper king follower, you must lie. It is a requirement of MAGAteness (similar to the way it's a requirement to lie for any church member). They have to lie in order to defend Trump, but they also have to lie just to have MAGAte credibility. Unless you lie in a blatant way, other MAGAtes won't believe you're really on board. You have to be a willing deceiver.

As a consequence, I have no interest in what MAGAtes say. They could make a totally valid case (theoretically, but not really) and it wouldn't move me because lying is part of their core values. The baseline for any communication is regarding your interlocutor as worthy of being listened to. MAGAtes don't come close to meeting that bar. If you voted for Trump, you're too stupid for your opinion to even be considered.

Re: MAGAtes Have to Lie

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:05 am
by Dr. Shades
Why do MAGAtes have to lie?

Re: MAGAtes Have to Lie

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:26 am
by Jersey Girl
Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:05 am
Why do MAGAtes have to lie?
To justify their allegiance to the group? I'm guessing.

Re: MAGAtes Have to Lie

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 3:49 pm
by Some Schmo
Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 7:05 am
Why do MAGAtes have to lie?
In order to maintain their support and to signal they're part of the team. You can't tell the truth and support Trump at the same time because the truth is bad for Trump.

Re: MAGAtes Have to Lie

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2026 5:09 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 3:49 pm
In order to maintain their support and to signal they're part of the team. You can't tell the truth and support Trump at the same time because the truth is bad for Trump.
I think you just described Fox and Friends.

Re: MAGAtes Have to Lie

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2026 6:45 pm
by Some Schmo
Think about this: MTG, since breaking ranks with Trump and his loyalists, now occasionally sounds sane. It's like, oh wow... she's not entirely delusional. She has opinions I disagree with obviously, but she's starting to acknowledge certain facts.

Not surprising at all that breaking away from MAGA allows one to speak the truth, at least when convenient.