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What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2026 1:54 pm
by Chap
I would like to hear the views of US board members on two points arising from what follows, which is taken from an article in the Guardian:
  1. Are the facts set out in the 'what's wrong' section broadly correct? If not, on what basis do you say that?
  2. If you agree to some extent with the 'what's wrong' section, do you think that the remedies proposed might find broad support from a majority of US voters?
I've added some bold to make important points stand out.

We can reverse America’s decline
At this difficult moment in American history, it’s imperative that we have the courage to be honest with ourselves.

The United States, once the envy of the world, is now a nation in profound decline. For the sake of our children and future generations, we must reverse that decline and change, in very fundamental ways, the direction of our country.

Not so long ago, the US was admired for its democracy, constitution, rule of law, strong middle class and an American dream which promised that our kids and grandchildren would have a better life than their parents.

Tragically, that is no longer the case.

We used to have the strongest and most vibrant middle class on Earth. Not any more. Today 60% of our people are living paycheck to paycheck and we have more income and wealth inequality than any other major country. Despite huge advances in technology and worker productivity, real weekly wages for the average American worker are lower today than they were 53 years ago.

We used to be the best-educated country on Earth, with an excellent public school system and the highest percentage of young people graduating from college than any other country. Not any more. Today, the US ranks well behind its peers in overall educational attainment, our childcare system is broken and millions of our young people are unable to afford a college education.

We used to have the best healthcare system in the world. Not any more. Despite spending far more per capita on healthcare than any other nation, 85 million Americans are uninsured or underinsured, our life expectancy is lower than most wealthy nations and we have a massive shortage in doctors, nurses, dentists, mental health counselors and other healthcare professionals.

We used to be a country with decent, affordable housing. Not any more. Since the pandemic, the median home price has risen by 55% to more than $410,000. Today, more than 20m households are spending more than half of their limited incomes on housing and nearly 800,000 people are homeless. Today, young couples are buying their first home, on average, 10 years later in life than their parents.

We used to have a reasonably nutritious food system. Not any more. Today, as a result of corporate agriculture and the greed of the food and beverage industry, many of our kids are addicted to ultra-processed foods and we have the highest rate of obesity and diabetes of any major country on Earth.

We used to have the most advanced transportation system in the world. Not any more. Our public transportation and rail systems lag far behind most other developed countries and millions of people spend hours a day in traffic jams.

But the decline we are seeing in our country is not just in economics. Our political system is corrupt, dominated by an extremely greedy billionaire class that is able to buy and sell politicians.

Even more troubling, our country is rapidly descending into authoritarianism under an unstable, narcissistic leader who wants more and more power for himself.

Donald Trump is usurping the powers of Congress, attacking the courts, intimidating the media, threatening universities, and prosecuting and arresting his political opponents.

We are living through one of the most difficult moments in the history of our country

And then, on top of all that, there is Trump’s domestic army, ICE, an agency which, every day, is acting in outrageous and unconstitutional ways.

ICE is occupying and terrorizing communities, kicking down doors without due process, sending five-year-old children to detention centers, illegally deporting people and shooting down American citizens in cold blood.

Further, Trump’s authoritarianism extends far beyond our own borders.

Today, we have a president who feels far more comfortable with the dictatorships of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE than with the democratic nations in Europe, a president who, along with Elon Musk and others, is supporting rightwing extremist parties throughout the world.

We have a president who has given unconditional support to the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, a war criminal who is under indictment by the international criminal court for his genocidal policies.

We have a president who violates international law with impunity by illegally attacking Venezuela, absurdly suggesting that Canada become our 51st state and, insanely, threatening to seize Greenland from Denmark.

So where do we go from here? How do we reverse America’s decline? How do we create an economy that works for working people and not just billionaires, a vibrant democracy and a foreign policy based on international law?

The answer is not complicated. We do it by building a national grassroots movement that fights for the needs of the American working class. We do it by bringing people together – Black, white, Latino, Asian, gay and straight – around an agenda that takes on the greed of the oligarchs and is based on the foundation of economic, social, racial and environmental justice.

Is this an impossible dream? Can it be done? You bet it can.

Zohran Mamdani’s successful grassroots campaign in New York City has given us the roadmap.

Starting at just 1% in the polls, Mamdani had the guts to take on the Democratic establishment, the Republican establishment and the oligarchs. And he won by organizing a grassroots campaign of more than 90,000 volunteers knocking on doors behind a strong progressive agenda.

Yes. What Mamdani accomplished in New York City can and should be replicated in all 50 states.

The lesson of Mamdani’s campaign is clear: it is not good enough just to be critical of Trump and his destructive policies. We must bring forth a positive vision that will improve the lives of ordinary Americans.

Here are just a few of the issues that must be addressed:

We must create a vibrant democracy by ending Citizens United and preventing billionaires from buying elections.

Whether the Democratic establishment likes it or not, we must guarantee healthcare as a human right through Medicare for All.

We must build millions of affordable homes and apartments and give our younger generation the opportunity to own a home of their own.

We must make public colleges, universities, trade schools and medical schools tuition-free and have the best childcare and public school system in the entire world.

We must expand social security and bring back traditional pension plans so that every senior in this country can retire with dignity.

We must raise the minimum wage to a living wage and guarantee every worker the right to join a union.

We must demand that the wealthiest people and most profitable corporations in America pay their fair share in taxes.

We are living through one of the most difficult moments in the history of our country. But the truth is that, throughout our nation’s history, we have faced great challenges before. From the revolutionary war to the abomination of slavery, from the Great Depression to the second world war, and from the century-long struggle for civil rights to the struggles for women’s rights, workers’ rights and LGBTQ+ rights, the people of our nation fought for justice – and prevailed. And we can do it again.

In times of great crisis, the American people came together and chose democracy over authoritarianism, justice over greed, solidarity over division. They understood in the past – and we understand today – that when we stand together, no matter how much money and power the oligarchs have, there is nothing that we cannot accomplish.

That is how we reverse America’s decline, renew our democracy, and build a future worthy of our children and generations yet to come.

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:57 pm
by huckelberry
In broad outline I can see some accuracy in what is said. I think the how to do this is hugely understated. It is not just grassroots winning an election in an area with strong liberal precedence. It is real how to implement this planning. Sanders is right to say criticizing Trump is not enough.

For Sanders ideas to get anywhere they need to develop to the point that more people see them as more than wishful thinking, or convincing more people that it is not a heavier yoke on folks instead of opportunity.

.....example. Sanders says medicine for all. What is that? A slogan? I am old enough I have Medicare, pay a monthly premium for that then have to pay over $600 per month for medical insurance to work with Medicare.

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:31 pm
by Chap
huckelberry wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:57 pm
[These ideas] need to develop to the point that more people see them as more than wishful thinking, or convincing more people that it is not a heavier yoke on folks Instead of opportunity.
It's a newspaper article, not a detailed policy document. And the problem is that the attention span of people has been worn down by algorithm-driven social media. Write at length and you just won't get read..

Heavier yoke than what? Wages that in real terms are lower than 53 years ago? Unaffordable medical care? inaccessible higher education? Housing beyond the means of young people? The problem is that for most people apart from the rich, the notion of "opportunity" is nowadays a mere mockery. What does the present system do for younger people nowadays? Not a lot. And it's likely to get worse.

The rich people round Trump realise that all too well. Hence the huge efforts they are devoting to trying to persuade ordinary Americans that they can get the old America back, just like it was in the 50s of the last century, so long as they can get rid of all those evil immigrants. If they can distract people's attention from what is really happening for long enough, that may enable rich people to go on expanding their wealth and power to the extent that annoying things like elections will no longer be a danger to the continuation and expansion of their power.

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2026 2:40 am
by Gunnar
Chap wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:31 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:57 pm
[These ideas] need to develop to the point that more people see them as more than wishful thinking, or convincing more people that it is not a heavier yoke on folks Instead of opportunity.
It's a newspaper article, not a detailed policy document. And the problem is that the attention span of people has been worn down by algorithm-driven social media. Write at length and you just won't get read..

Heavier yoke than what? Wages that in real terms are lower than 53 years ago? Unaffordable medical care? inaccessible higher education? Housing beyond the means of young people? The problem is that for most people apart from the rich, the notion of "opportunity" is nowadays a mere mockery. What does the present system do for younger people nowadays? Not a lot. And it's likely to get worse.

The rich people round Trump realise that all too well. Hence the huge efforts they are devoting to trying to persuade ordinary Americans that they can get the old America back, just like it was in the 50s of the last century, so long as they can get rid of all those evil immigrants. If they can distract people's attention from what is really happening for long enough, that may enable rich people to go on expanding their wealth and power to the extent that annoying things like elections will no longer be a danger to the continuation and expansion of their power.
Extremely well said, Chap!

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2026 5:07 am
by huckelberry
I mention heavier yoke to point to what people may fear, not an objective analysis. I have some general sympathy for the proposals but do feel a good deal of uncertainty about how workable they are. I think the large portions of our population trained to fear anything socialist are likely to react with more caution than I.

Still a basic point left leaning media obsessed over Trump. Even when some fellow named Biden was president news was not about him but about Trump.

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2026 12:49 pm
by Chap
huckelberry wrote:
Sun Feb 08, 2026 5:07 am
Still a basic point left leaning media obsessed over Trump. Even when some fellow named Biden was president news was not about him but about Trump.
Why so much coverage of Trump?

At the deeper level, because it has become increasingly clear that Trump has a project unlike that of any other previous presidential candidate: the dismantling of all restraints on executive power, and the concentration of that power in one person, himself. After one year in office, he has gone a long way towards actualising that: troops and killer paramilitaries on the streets of cities whose administration annoys him, revenge motivated prosecutions of political opponents, amnesties for undoubted crimes on the basis of loyalty to him (the Capitol rioters) or for what appear to be personal whims (a former head of state convicted of massive drug trafficking), and so on. And of course huge narcissistic gestures - renaming the Kennedy Centre, demanding that Penn Station and Dulles airport be named after him as the price of not blocking funds for NY projects, demolishing the historic East Wing of the White House and building a huge ballroom with lots of gilt decoration. And giving the rich tax cuts that create a ballooning national debt. And so on. And so forth.

But also because on a day to day basis, Trump has done and said things (and continues to do and say things) that would demand attention from any normal news outlet, as being so completely outside the boundaries of what any previous presidential candidate or office holder might have considered doing. Latest example: a president who posts an image of a black former President and First Lady as dancing apes. By any normal rules of journalistic practice that is a front page affair. What are mainstream media to do? ignore such things? That would be very strange by normal journalistic standards. However, this is the Bannon 'flood the zone with crap' policy: it does not matter what is said about Trump, so long as he fills all the available news space. In normal times just one item like the 'Obamas are apes' post would destroy a president's reputation, and even cast doubt on his sanity. But Trump's voter base either doesn't care, or likes the things he does and says.

If media don't cover these things, they would clearly failing in their duty to hold those with power to account, and their readers and viewers could reasonably accuse them of covering up scandalous behaviour by the president. But if they do report them, they are told they are obsessed over Trump. Nice move there, Trump.

So do you think media should simply end news bulletins or front page articles by saying "Today Trump did or said another weird thing that damaged the image of the presidency, the rule of law, and the national interests of the USA. But's what new about that? So we will not be reporting the details."

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2026 7:19 pm
by huckelberry
Chap, of course you are right to point out the need to cover Trump in the news. I just do not think democrats have been selling their ideas as well as is needed (maybe I am wishful thinking or maybe we will see it happen).

Speaking of working lower economic folks I have heard the comment, "I don't vote for democrats because they just raise my taxes, I can't afford it and the help, if there is any, is not helping us."

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2026 9:33 pm
by Chap
huckelberry wrote:
Sun Feb 08, 2026 7:19 pm
I just do not think democrats have been selling their ideas as well as is needed (maybe I am wishful thinking or maybe we will see it happen).
As an outsider, that certainly seems to me to be the case. Trump and allies are wise to keep shouting that the Democrats will raise taxes.

This keeps attention away from the fact that what were once comfortably off middle class people now see their health costs about to soar, supermarket prices higher than ever, their wages stagnant, their employment increasingly insecure, their children unable to afford college, and housing costs rising far beyond what the next generation can afford. That is real damage, felt today.

But instead of thinking it should be a good idea to get rid of the plutocrats who have profited from this multidimensional disaster, ordinary folk are being persuaded that what they really have to fear is supposedly tax-raising Democrats.

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2026 6:49 am
by Physics Guy
The United States certainly seems to me to have declined. Electing Donald Trump was jumping the shark. And whether it's Trump or Sanders calling people to restore a better America that supposedly used to be, I can't help wondering something. It's just a wondering, not a conviction, because I'm not an Economics Guy, but it's a question I'd like to ask someone who seemed to understand the issues—which doesn't seem to be everyone who talks about them.

The thing I wonder about is the notion that the USA has declined because at some point it went off track, because it somehow stopped doing all the good things that it used to be doing, and that used to work well. What if falling off from virtue just wasn't what really happened? What if the real story is mainly just that some temporary advantages have simply run out, and now the good times are over? What if it's not that a smart and hard-working person got a bit careless and needs to straighten up again, but rather that an ordinary schmo won a lottery and has now finally squandered it?

A big part of why the headline about falling away is so prominent now is that there are so many American memes about how good American institutions and traditions all are. If things are bad in spite of all that excellence, some flaw must have crept in just recently. I just can't help thinking, though, that when things are good, it's easy for anyone to ascribe their affluence to their own virtues.

The United States got hold of a huge tract of arable land, and a lot of other natural resources, by taking most of a continent from aboriginals, and then it rode the wave of industrialisation. Then it came through two world wars far more easily than most other rich nations, simply through geographical isolation. This good fortune lasted a while, since it brought a stockpile of capital that could be invested in lots of ways. It's a lot easier to get richer if you're already rich than it is to get rich if you're poor.

If the previous good times were never really the natural fruit of any American excellence, if all that was just an illusion, then improving things now may be much harder than simply returning to the past's proven formulas. It may require new solutions starting from scratch.

Re: What's wrong with America?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2026 10:15 am
by Chap
Physics Guy wrote:
Tue Feb 10, 2026 6:49 am
The United States got hold of a huge tract of arable land, and a lot of other natural resources, by taking most of a continent from aboriginals, and then it rode the wave of industrialisation. Then it came through two world wars far more easily than most other rich nations, simply through geographical isolation. This good fortune lasted a while, since it brought a stockpile of capital that could be invested in lots of ways. It's a lot easier to get richer if you're already rich than it is to get rich if you're poor.

If the previous good times were never really the natural fruit of any American excellence, if all that was just an illusion, then improving things now may be much harder than simply returning to the past's proven formulas. It may require new solutions starting from scratch.
I have to say that this strikes me as in essence true. After World War 2, the US was at its peak: the one advanced country whose industry and infrastructure were undamaged by war, backed by huge natural resources and facing a world that apart from the Soviet bloc and China was neither able nor willing resist its influence and domination. The only way the US could not be rich and powerful under such circumstances would have been to try very hard not to.

The problem is that many Americans came to assume that this was a natural and permanent state of things. And since unsurprisingly it turned out not to be, it is natural for those Americans to think that the difference between the US in (say) 1955 and 2025 can only be explained by the malevolence of foreign enemies or gross incompetence at home.

What we see happening in the US nowadays is the inevitable result of that. Trump, like a certain European leader in the 1930s, is claiming that if only he is allowed a free hand to do what needs doing including crushing his opponents by unrestrained powers in the courts and on the streets, America can be brought back to what his supporters fantasise that it once was. That will end in bitter disappointment, with potential consequences that might be extreme and irremediable.