Chap wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:36 am
This is a sad story.
However under current circumstances, none of us on this board (apart from Jersey Girl) has a human relation with this family close enough to demand emotional commitment to sympathising, supporting and helping in any practical way.
So I hope it is not too cold-hearted if I say that I hope Jersey Girl will eventually be able to tell us how the husband talks about his loss. Does he now see it as a mistake for her to have ignored vaccination, and to have travelled freely and interacted closely with many other unvaccinated people under pandemic circumstances? Or does he ascribe his wife's death to some other non virus-related cause? Or ... what?
I ask in the hope of understanding such people better (and hence learning how to persuade them to act more rationally for their own and for others' sakes), not because I want to mock or ridicule them.
Chap your last sentence is exactly why I started posting about this case. To try to understand the perplexing choices they made when most of us put on a mask when it was recommended and got vaccinated as soon as we could. My husband has known this man for decades now. I have only met the wife once, maybe twice. Otherwise he is part of a group of coffee buddies that meets up multiple times each week to talk politics and family, or whatever retired guys talk about and who don't go hang out in a tavern.
I have swung between compassion and raging in my head upon every update. She went on that trip with an adult daughter to see family, one of which was their son in SC. I think they also visited AL to see her great-grandchildren. But for the life of me, I don't know why a woman her age would choose to travel unvaccinated during a pandemic and without regular masking.
I learned that she was 72 and he is 74. They would have been in the second tier group to receive vaccinations and yet, they chose otherwise. They are both from the South and a Christian family. He (I don't know about the wife) goes to church every Sunday in his Sunday best attire. He sends out Christmas cards every year even though we live only miles away. He has been generous and kind to our family. Giving wedding gifts and I just learned the other day that he attended the funeral of our family member who died a tragic death. I didn't know who attended because my mind was on protecting his survivor. I will tell you, this man would give you the literal shirt off his back. When my husband had surgery the very end of March, he is the one who came over to get him out of the house (and away from me, no doubt! It was a long recovery!) and back to coffee as soon as he was able to travel. One or two of those days, I guess I didn't do a good enough job of shoveling snow for a walker, so he shoveled around himself. He didn't have to do any of those things I mentioned, he is just a generous person.
And yet, it is hard to get past the precautions part. It's not like we haven't lived the past 14 months with daily/around the clock Covid reports in our face. It's not like the doctors and governors haven't busted their behinds on a daily basis to warn us and guide us. I recall that when we first heard the pandemic was going down, going into Walmart and seeing a mother and daughter wearing nice cloth masks; making a mental note to find some masks for us. We already had some so I think I started masking before the mandates were issued. I made my family members mask if they came over and socially distanced from them in my own home. I didn't hug my people for a year. I cancelled last Thanksgiving! Listen, I am no genius and yet, I knew the whole time that if I or my husband were to show symptoms of any kind...it was an immediate trip to the doctor or hospital full stop. Again, I am no genius level thinker here. I just paid attention, learned what I could, and tried to preserve my own life.
So how are these folks different from us in their thinking? The answer to that remains to be seen or heard. I do know that while in the hospital and only communicating by phone, that his wife told him to get vaccinated. Will he do it?
And from a believing standpoint, how many times does the Lord have to supply your needs (for information, simple masking, and then, a scientific breakthrough miracle of the vaccines) and stand back and watch you mess up at every turn before you
wake up and smell the coffee burning on the stove? He has a granddaughter's wedding to attend tomorrow. Can you even believe what that will be like on an emotional level?
In her final days, they allowed visitors. They lowered her oxygen pressure but had to raise it again because she couldn't breathe without the oxygen mask--I think a venturi oxygen mask? Looking back on it, I can see that they were testing her. They installed a nasogastric feeding tube to increase her nutrition. And then yesterday morning he called my husband crying because the doctors discussed removal of life support with him and the decision making authority was his. Around 4 pm yesterday, they removed life support. She took three breaths and then died in his presence. I am thankful that they were together. By my estimate, they were married for approximately 50 years.
I am sure there will be a service for his wife coming up here shortly. And, if I go I am wearing one of my nice cloth masks. I don't care that I'm vaccinated. I'm doing it because it is still the right thing to do for myself and others. Anyway, I have prayed about this and I know that in this case and in relation to this family, that my feelings of frustration don't matter. The only thing that matters is that my husband's friend and his family are grieving. We will do what we can in support. Maybe do airport runs, I don't know. Or just be an ear and listen. If he needs to get away from the house for a break, he can come over here.
If I hear inklings of what his thinking is going forward, I will share them here. I never expected to have a personal case study to share like this. And yet, there it is. I am going to encourage my husband to encourage him to get vaccinated in honor of his wife's wishes.
Thanks for your comments and for understanding why I posted about this case, Chap.