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Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:47 pm
by Moksha
Putin congratulating Biden means that Trump can no longer count on the Russian Army to aid in his coup.

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:58 pm
by canpakes
subgenius wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:31 pm
canpakes wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:04 am

In other words, it’s like how Book of Mormon apologists trade footnotes and references between their papers in a sort of grand circle jerk of unverified assertions.
F.I.F.Y.
Circular fix, for accuracy.

ETA: I wonder if the hotel room where Don Jr. met the Russians had a Book of Mormon in the drawer.

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:38 pm
by canpakes
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:28 am
This is what Sidney Powell as Lin Wood are doing to Americans. https://electionlawblog.org/?p=119716 Disgusting .
More on this:
HOUSTON — A former Houston police captain was arrested after allegedly running a man off the road and threatening him at gunpoint — what prosecutors say was part of an elaborate attempt to find evidence for a false conspiracy theory of widespread voter fraud in Harris County.

Mark Aguirre was working on behalf of a powerful Republican megadonor’s group to investigate unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud when, in October, he allegedly pulled a gun on a man described by the Harris County district attorney’s office as an “innocent and ordinary” air conditioner repairman.

Aguirre was arrested Tuesday, according to the Harris County district attorney’s office.

Prosecutors say Aguirre’s election fraud claims were baseless and that he was paid $266,400 by the group Liberty Center for God and Country, whose CEO is prominent Texas right-wing activist Steven Hotze.


Hotze was among a group of Republicans who unsuccessfully sued to have nearly 127,000 Harris County ballots tossed out this year. He was also among Republicans who tried — and failed — to stop Gov. Greg Abbott from extending early voting during the coronavirus pandemic, a suit for which Aguirre had provided an affidavit, stating that he was involved in an investigation into a “wide-ranging and fraudulent ballot harvesting scheme” in Harris County.

Jared Woodfill, a spokesperson and attorney for Hotze, confirmed that the Liberty Center hired a company led by Aguirre to investigate voter fraud ahead of the 2020 election. The company contracted approximately 20 private investigators to work on claims of fraudulent ballots in Harris County and other places in Texas. Woodfill said he was aware of Aguirre’s arrest but had not yet heard Aguirre’s side of the story.

“[Hotze] did not direct or lead any of the investigations,” Woodfill said, noting that Hotze instead sent tips and information to the team of investigators to decide how to follow up. “The [Liberty Center] employed the investigation team that looked into the allegations.”

Hotze is an active GOP donor and is one of the most prolific culture warriors on the right. He’s a fierce opponent of same-sex marriage and was a key figure in the unsuccessful push for the 2017 “bathroom bill” in the Texas Legislature. This summer, he infamously left a voicemail for Abbott’s chief of staff telling him to shoot and kill people protesting the in-custody death of George Floyd.

President Donald Trump, along with the Texas GOP and some key Texas officials, has been pushing thus-far unproven claims of widespread voter fraud both before and after President-elect Joe Biden won the presidential election. Trump recently latched on to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s failed lawsuit to challenge 2020 election results in four key battleground states. The Electoral College affirmed that Biden won, but 34 of Texas' 38 electors defiantly urged the legislatures of four swing states to overrule the will of their voters and appoint their own electors. And a large number of GOP members of the Texas congressional delegation still have not acknowledged Biden's victory.

While working on behalf of Hotze’s group, which has been attempting to find evidence for the GOP’s allegations of election fraud, Aguirre surveilled the air conditioner technician for four days with the help of at least two other unidentified people before the Oct. 19 incident. He later told authorities that he believed the technician was behind a huge voter fraud scheme in the Houston area, according to an affidavit by the Houston police officer who responded to the incident. Aguirre told police that he believed the technician to be transporting fake ballots in his vehicle and to have as many as 750,000 in his possession.

“There were no ballots in the truck,” according to a Harris County district attorney’s office press release. “It was filled with air conditioning parts and tools.”
Story continues at - https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/15 ... ce=Twitter

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:39 pm
by subgenius
canpakes wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:58 pm
In other words, it’s like how Democrats and Liberals trade claims of racism and "deboonked" between their papers in a sort of grand circle jerk of unverified assertions.
Circular fix, for accuracy.[/quote]
what goes around comes around
ETA: I wonder if the hotel room where Don Jr. met the Russians had a Book of Mormon in the drawer.
If it was a Marriott, then yes - they all do.

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:53 pm
by canpakes
subgenius wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:39 pm
Circular fix, for accuracy.
what goes around comes around
No worries. You don’t really believe in the Book of Mormon being an actual ancient scripture anyway.

subgenius wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:39 pm
ETA: I wonder if the hotel room where Don Jr. met the Russians had a Book of Mormon in the drawer.
If it was a Marriott, then yes - they all do.
I don’t think that Trump properties include the Marriot chain.

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:01 pm
by Brack
subgenius wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:35 am
Michigan legislature committees on Tuesday subpoenaed election evidence from Detroit and the suburb of Livonia.
State lawmakers subpoenaed hard drives, laptops, emails, copy of all communications with poll workers and other election related evidence.
Wayne County, Michigan had basically nothing to do with Trump losing that state. Three Michigan Counties (including Kent County) flipped from Republican to Democrat. Biden did much better in Oakland County, MI than Clinton did there in 2016.

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:31 pm
by canpakes
Brack wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:01 pm
subgenius wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:35 am
Michigan legislature committees on Tuesday subpoenaed election evidence from Detroit and the suburb of Livonia.
State lawmakers subpoenaed hard drives, laptops, emails, copy of all communications with poll workers and other election related evidence.
Wayne County, Michigan had basically nothing to do with Trump losing that state. Three Michigan Counties (including Kent County) flipped from Republican to Democrat. Biden did much better in Oakland County, MI than Clinton did there in 2016.
Yeah, but there are more black folks in Wayne County. ; )

Got to make it look good for the Base, right?

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:51 pm
by Res Ipsa
Interesting look at today’s senate hearing. https://lawandcrime.com/ The truth finding function of legislative hearings is nearly dead. It’s mostly political theater.

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:57 pm
by subgenius
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:51 pm
Interesting look at today’s senate hearing. https://lawandcrime.com/ The truth finding function of legislative hearings is nearly dead. It’s mostly political theater.
oh, now i get it, you're new here.

Re: Voter Fraud

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:03 pm
by canpakes
subgenius wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:57 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:51 pm
Interesting look at today’s senate hearing. https://lawandcrime.com/ The truth finding function of legislative hearings is nearly dead. It’s mostly political theater.
oh, now i get it, you're new here.
I’m sure that Res has recognized that it has been political theatre pretty much since the beginning.

As do you.