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canpakes wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:41 pm

Then there’s the point of view that maybe ‘America First’ actually meant acknowledging the problem early, getting out ahead with countermeasures instead of fighting them every step of the way, and cooperating with each other and each State through example, instead of trying to set people against each other for the sake of partisan politics. Maybe all of that could have been accomplished by a leader who wasn’t afraid to be seen with a piece of cloth on his face. But, I guess that we’ll never know how an America First like that would have worked out.

What we do know is that, given the incontrovertible fact that The US has 4% of the world’s population but 25% of its coronavirus cases and deaths, there is simply no honest or reasonable way to escape the realization that no nation on earth did a worse job of addressing the pandemic from the very start than did our nation under the Trump Administration without revealing oneself to be a fool or liar or both! One can deny that at the top of one's lungs until one is blue in the face and passes out from apoplexy or insufficient breath, but it will still remain true!

Hawkeye wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:18 pm

You helped trash our economy over a bad flu and nothing more. You did it because of your hatred for DJT and his America first agenda. And now you don't even have the intellectual honesty to admit how over the top your lockdown response was.

Son, you have assumed the petty narcissism of Trump as if you and he were the same person, and that person was underdeveloped with zero capacity for forming a theory of other minds. The world suffered a global pandemic, over a million deaths occurred in the US and over 6 million globally. But it's all about you.

That is, in the most literal sense of the word, pathetic.

I think it is dangerous to look at the anecdotal evidence that surrounds you and postulate that experience as the global one. There is no global one-size-fits-all Covid experience. Age, physiology, individual health concerns, the strain of Covid you have, as well as the shots you have been given will all effect how you respond.

I tested positive 4 days ago. So far the experience has been like a mild to moderate cold. But over a million Americans who died had a very different experience. My best friend's daughter is immuno-compromised and has led the life of a shut-in during the Pandemic.

Do I feel that having worn a mask for 2 years was wasted now that I have Covid? No, because I survived Covid when there was no vaccine, and I probably got a variant that was more communicable than deadly.

But it's all about you.

Hopefully when your party gets thrashed in this upcoming midterm election, you'll realize this shutdown and subsequent inflation brought on by printing trillions of dollars, has stirred a lot more righteous indignation in far more people than just me.

I tested positive 4 days ago. So far the experience has been like a mild to moderate cold. But over a million Americans who died had a very different experience.

1 million Americans is still just 0.31% of the entire population. Even if it were 10% of all Americans I don't see it as having been worthy of inflicting this kind of inflation and economic devastation that we have unleashed upon ourselves. This was a horrible overreaction at best or partisan economic sabotage at worst.

Hawkeye wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:50 pm

1 million (dead) Americans is still just 0.31% of the entire population. Even if it were 10% of all Americans I don't see it as having been worthy of inflicting this kind of inflation and economic devastation that we have unleashed upon ourselves. This was a horrible overreaction at best or partisan economic sabotage at worst.

So, why did the previous Administration follow the course that it did?

Hawkeye wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:44 pm

But it's all about you.

Hopefully when your party gets thrashed in this upcoming midterm election, you'll realize this shutdown and subsequent

Does it matter that the shutdown and other guidelines that governors were following were largely inline with those issued by Trump in his "guideline for governors"? I know it's confusing, given that he took to Twitter to criticize states for following his plan only days after giving them his plan.

inflation brought on by printing trillions of dollars, has stirred a lot more righteous indignation in far more people than just me.

Difference between receipts and outlays (in billions)...

Clinton
First year of presidency: -203.2
Last year of presidency: 128.2 (prior to Clinton, the last time they were positive was Lyndon Johnson)

Bush
First year of presidency: -157.8
Last year of presidency: -1,412.7

Obama
First year of presidency: -1,294.4
Last year of presidency: -665.4

Trump
First year of presidency: -779.1
Last year of presidency: -3,668.7

Biden
Current estimate for first year of presidency: -1,837

It gets really fun when you look at that deficit spending as a percentage of GDP.

Rascally liberals, and their socialist communisming.

Hawkeye wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:50 pm

I tested positive 4 days ago. So far the experience has been like a mild to moderate cold. But over a million Americans who died had a very different experience.

1 million Americans is still just 0.31% of the entire population. Even if it were 10% of all Americans I don't see it as having been worthy of inflicting this kind of inflation and economic devastation that we have unleashed upon ourselves. This was a horrible overreaction at best or partisan economic sabotage at worst.

That’s 33,000,000 Americans this “pro-life” Qtardlican believes was ok to sacrifice to Moloch. That’s something like 20x the number of Americans dying in US wars. That’s more abortions than in the combined last 24 years.

The GOP is a death cult.

- Doc

Here's that "devastation" as measured by per person GDP in real dollars. Still the highest in 70 years. In fact, we're pretty close to where we would have been if the trend after the last recession had continued. What's the price of gas been doing recently, Ajax?

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:09 pm

Hawkeye wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:50 pm

1 million Americans is still just 0.31% of the entire population. Even if it were 10% of all Americans I don't see it as having been worthy of inflicting this kind of inflation and economic devastation that we have unleashed upon ourselves. This was a horrible overreaction at best or partisan economic sabotage at worst.

That’s 33,000,000 Americans this “pro-life” Qtardlican believes was ok to sacrifice to Moloch. That’s something like 20x the number of Americans dying in US wars. That’s more abortions than in the combined last 24 years.

The GOP is a death cult.

- Doc

This seems like, on average, a 10% cut in patient count - and potential income - for ajax.

ajax, are you sure that you want that?