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Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:21 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
I do wonder, if after the R’s get done with their circus on the 6th, and the House votes to certify the results (despite the R’s who are traitors that’ll vote against it), if Pence were to go rogue and say, “I’ve heard the evidence, and I find in favor of President Trump.”, what’d happen next? I mean, besides people shooting each other, of course.
- Doc
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:44 pm
by Moksha
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:01 pm
Take this to the bank: if Trump were to go to Moscow, he'd fall out of a window in the first 90 days.
Why? You would think he would be accorded some heroes status and be sent to open the Black Sea Trump Tower and Casino to help pay back the money he owes to the oligarchs.
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:52 pm
by Res Ipsa
Moksha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:44 pm
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:01 pm
Take this to the bank: if Trump were to go to Moscow, he'd fall out of a window in the first 90 days.
Why? You would think he would be accorded some heroes status and be sent to open the Black Sea Trump Tower and Casino to help pay back the money he owes to the oligarchs.
He has no loyalty and can’t keep his mouth shut.
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:54 pm
by subgenius
MeDotOrg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:53 pm
If you want to know the heart of Donald Trump,
listen to the phone call he made to the Georgia Secretary of State.
President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.
The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”
Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.
Trump dismissed their arguments.
“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,” he said. “And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.”
Raffensperger responded: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.”
At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”
The number of votes the President received is recalculated, based upon votes that Raffensperger "finds". That is what democracy means to Donald Trump.
So, clearly you decided to not listen to the entire conversation, or read transcripts...rather to take the ignorant road and try to characterize the highlighted text as an invitation for fraud? Not the more obvious, and factual, position of there is nothing wrong with admitting you messed up the count with the addition of fraudulent ballots.
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:03 pm
by Moksha
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:52 pm
He has no loyalty and can’t keep his mouth shut.
Point well taken.
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:06 pm
by Moksha
subgenius wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:54 pm
So, clearly you decided to not listen to the entire conversation, or read transcripts...
I picked up that Trump was shamelessly bombarding Raffensperger with lie after lie of non-existent information.
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:11 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Moksha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:06 pm
subgenius wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:54 pm
So, clearly you decided to not listen to the entire conversation, or read transcripts...
I picked up that Trump was shamelessly bombarding Raffensperger with lie after lie of non-existent information.
Like the jenius, the mushroom dick sucking cow he is, would read anything or listen to anything longer than a tik tok video.
- Doc
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:19 pm
by Res Ipsa
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:21 pm
I do wonder, if after the R’s get done with their circus on the 6th, and the House votes to certify the results (despite the R’s who are traitors that’ll vote against it), if Pence were to go rogue and say, “I’ve heard the evidence, and I find in favor of President Trump.”, what’d happen next? I mean, besides people shooting each other, of course.
- Doc
I think there would be a stop at the courthouse first. Pence isn’t an election judge — he just opens envelopes and reports the count after votes are read by the tellers.
I’d lay odds that there’s bright and shiny complaint and motion for a temporary restraining order drafted and ready for filing.
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:43 pm
by Jersey Girl
Hey Chap. Does the new national lock down in England affect Scotland? Prime Minister Johnson said they need to close all borders. Does that include air traffic arrivals and departures and if so, does that include flights in and out of Scotland?
I know that parts of England were under Tier 4 level restrictions. I've lost track of what's happening in Scotland. So what about this new announcement?
Re: How Trump thinks "democracy" works
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:52 pm
by canpakes
subgenius wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:54 pm
So, clearly you decided to not listen to the entire conversation, or read transcripts...rather to take the ignorant road and try to characterize the highlighted text as an invitation for fraud? Not the more obvious, and factual, position of there is nothing wrong with admitting you messed up the count with the addition of fraudulent ballots.
I listened to the whole thing. By all means, subs - tell us about
how Trump supposes the count should be ‘corrected’.
Make your case.