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Some Schmo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:07 pm

I don't think ajax has had an education.

I thought he has said that he is an optometrist. That would require some schooling.
I wonder if Ajax wears his Confederate uniform to priesthood meeting at his ward on Sundays, or if he hides that he is a traitor to the United States from his bishop and the other ward members?

Nomomo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:52 pm

Traitor to Democracy Ajax wrote:I hope so. Honestly I'm kind of tired of watching Hannity before bed and getting fired up by Shapiro in the morning. Until they get serious about finding a us a new land where we can throw off the tyranny of democracy......

With this above statement as proof, there no longer can be the slightest doubt whatsoever that Ajax is in fact a traitor to the United States and democracy!

I humbly disagree. I think it is extremely important that, as individuals and as a country, we react in a thoughtful, carefully considered manner to both the events of Wednesday and the conditions that enabled the riot. Ajax is learning a hard lesson: he's been taken for a ride by people like Hannity and Shapiro. They aren't serious about creating the kind of change they've been leading Ajax to believe is coming. They're in this to make a buck, like good capitalists, and revolutions and insurrection are bad for business. Inciting division and conflict -- profitable. Actual revolution -- not profitable. He may even catch on that Trump doesn't give a crap about him and views him as riff raff whose only purpose is to make Trump more money. It's hard to learn that your heroes have feet of clay (or in Trump's case, are all clay).

I've posted this before, I think, but a pure democracy can be a tyranny. In particular, racial, ethnic, and religious minorities can suffer terribly under "majority rules." But Ajax knows that's not our system. We have a Constitution that limits the ability of the majority to harm the minority. That's the difference between a pure democracy and a Constitutional democracy. He uses "tyranny of the majority" as code for "the majority disagrees with me." He thinks he should get his own country where he gets his way on everything. He suffers from a delusion that if he could form a country of like minded people, things would just work like magic. Except that's not what happens in experiments in libertarian utopias. People won't all agree with him, and he will be just as unhappy in his dreamworld as he is in this one.

He's learning another hard lesson: that when Obama said "you didn't build that," he was right. Hyperindividualism is a lie. We are so dependent on the efforts of others, whether through private or public action, that to ignore the effect our actions have on others is nonsensical. It's what leads people to mistake wearing a mask to slow transmission as a deadly disease is "tyranny" or that it's okay to cause mass sickness and death because "economy."

To my knowledge, Ajax hasn't done anything to deserve the word "traitor." And I am loathe to tolerate anything that resembles a modern day witch hunt or to emulate Ajax's imitation of Eugene McCarthy. Like I said, he's free to leave the U.S. Lucky for him, many other countries don't treat immigrants the way he wants the US to treat them.

Nomomo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:38 pm

Some Schmo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:07 pm

I don't think ajax has had an education.

I thought he has said that he is an optometrist. That would require some schooling.

Well, ajax has lied here so often, it's hard to take seriously his career claims.

Very few people I've encountered in my life are as willfully ignorant as he is. I will freely admit that I don't want to believe he's educated because of what that implies about the American education system.

The disconnect between whining about a lack of freedom while itching for a dictatorship does not speak well of someone's educational history.

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:07 pm

I am loathe to tolerate anything that resembles a modern day witch hunt

Please don't do this.

The reason that witch hunts in (say) 17th century Salem were bad was because there were and are no such things as witches, but people were told by those in power that if they did not agree there existed a secret organisation of hate-filled traitors who had sold their souls to Satan, that just proved that they must be witches themselves. (Hi there, QAnon!!).

As a result, many harmless and innocent people were harassed, terrorised and in some cases killed.

Ajax and his friends have actually and without concealment given their open allegiance to a man who really does pursue his own personal power to the exclusion of all other goals, and is truly attempting to destroy the safeguards of the American republic against dictatorial and election-proof rule. This is not imagination, but simple truth evident from their repeated statements on this board.

Calling out people like Ajax and Subgenius for what they openly claim to be is simply calling a spade a spade. It has nothing in common with a witch hunt.

Chap wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:29 pm

Please don't do this.

The reason that witch hunts in (say) 17th century Salem were bad was because there were and are no such things as witches, but people were told that by those in power if they did not agree that there existed a secret organisation of hate-filled traitors who had sold their souls to Satan, that just proved that they must be witches themselves. (Hi there, QAnon!!).

As a result, many harmless and innocent people were harassed, terrorised and in some cases killed.

Ajax and his friends have actually and without concealment given their open allegiance to a man who really does pursue his own personal power to the exclusion of all other goals, and is truly attempting to destroy the safeguards of the American republic against dictatorial and election-proof rule. This is not imagination, but simple truth evident from their repeated statements on this board.

Calling out people like Ajax and Subgenius for what they openly claim to be is simply calling a spade a spade. It has nothing in common with a witch hunt.

Exactly!

With this above statement as proof, there no longer can be the slightest doubt whatsoever that Ajax is in fact a traitor to the United States and democracy!

Make a file and save the quote. Pull it out when you leftists start to consume and enslave each other. Democracy is not freedom.

ajax18 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:09 pm

Make a file and save the quote. Pull it out when you leftists start to consume and enslave each other. Democracy is not freedom.

Heilig Scheisse!
I am stunned.

Chap wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:29 pm

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:07 pm

I am loathe to tolerate anything that resembles a modern day witch hunt

Please don't do this.

The reason that witch hunts in (say) 17th century Salem were bad was because there were and are no such things as witches, but people were told by those in power that if they did not agree there existed a secret organisation of hate-filled traitors who had sold their souls to Satan, that just proved that they must be witches themselves. (Hi there, QAnon!!).

As a result, many harmless and innocent people were harassed, terrorised and in some cases killed.

Ajax and his friends have actually and without concealment given their open allegiance to a man who really does pursue his own personal power to the exclusion of all other goals, and is truly attempting to destroy the safeguards of the American republic against dictatorial and election-proof rule. This is not imagination, but simple truth evident from their repeated statements on this board.

Calling out people like Ajax and Subgenius for what they openly claim to be is simply calling a spade a spade. It has nothing in common with a witch hunt.

I have yet to see Ajax and Subby claim to be traitors.

I view "traitor" as a very serious charge, notwithstanding Trump's watering the term down through overuse. in my opinion, it should be reserved for conduct that is treasonous or tantamount to treason. Appropriate for Trump? Yes. Appropriate for legislators who voted to rob the voters of certain states of their votes in violation of law and the Constitution? Absolutely. Appropriate for ordinary citizens who have voiced support for Trump. Nope. UnAmerican? Sure. But not "traitors."

Claiming that a civilian citizen is a traitor, for the sin of writing either silliness or bile on a message board, is certainly hyperbole.

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