Will this Kind of Outrage Never Stop?

[Gunnar]

https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/fact-check-floyd-fentanyl

It depends whether you believe the government autopsy or the expert hired by the family to do a different autopsy.

But Floyd was a convicted felon who once pistol whipped a pregnant woman while burglarizing her home. It doesn't surprise me that Jersey Girl who only watches CNN wouldn't know this.

Even that would not excuse Derek Chauvin's murderous attitude and behavior. by the way, what is your source for that claim, and what justification do you have for regarding it as more credible than CNN? And even if it is true, can you show that CNN denied it or tried to cover it up?

[Jersey Girl]

https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/fact-check-floyd-fentanyl

It depends whether you believe the government autopsy or the expert hired by the family to do a different autopsy.

But Floyd was a convicted felon who once pistol whipped a pregnant woman while burglarizing her home. It doesn't surprise me that Jersey Girl who only watches CNN wouldn't know this.

I'm not watching CNN. I'm watching the trial, you dolt. That's right. Every single freaking minute of it. Something you would never consider doing.

Pistol whipped a pregnant woman?

George Floyd was being detained by police for being suspected of passing an alleged counterfeit 20$ bill.

Tell me where the alleged counterfeit 20$ bill is today.

And when you're done telling me where the 20$ bill is today, tell me how that justifies his death by a sadistic cop who violated both training and department policy.

You have yet to respond to any attempts to engage you on this topic.

Where's the alleged counterfeit 20$ bill, ajax? Where is it?

[Jersey Girl]

https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/fact-check-floyd-fentanyl

It depends whether you believe the government autopsy or the expert hired by the family to do a different autopsy.

First off, we're not discussing a civil suit brought against the city by the family.

We're discussing a criminal trial against the person formerly known as Officer Derek Chauvin. NO experts hired by the family involved.

On top of that your chosen resource is the website of a personal injury attorney. You consider that a primary source? You're a medical professional? My god you are hysterical!

Autopsy report: https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepi ... 6-3-20.pdf

Medical examiner's press release: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachm ... 1.2020.pdf

Medical examiner who conducted autopsy testifies about Floyd's cause of death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRMOoBevbIM

It's just over one hour of testimony which you won't watch so let me give you the information you don't give a crap about.

Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression
Manner of death: Homicide

Don't play wag the dog with me, buddy. Show yourself to be competent or get out of the way.

Intellectually incurious doctor who doesn't care that a man was tortured to death in broad daylight on camera.

[ajax18]

Even that would not excuse Derek Chauvin's murderous attitude and behavior.

I don't think you have to agree with everything Chauvin did to see a reasonable doubt in the claim that Chauvin intended to kill Floyd.

But to answer your original question, no this outrage will not stop as long as it makes money for the race profiteers, like those residing at Black Lives Manor. It wins votes amongst Democrats and ratings for CNN. But there's a lot more to these police brutality cases as you pull back layers of the onion and the truth starts to come out.

I still find Icarus's accusation that Officer Joe Gutierrez is a white supremacist laughable. It reminds me of how the media painted George Zimmerman to be a white supremacist.

[Jersey Girl]

I don't think you have to agree with everything Chauvin did to see a reasonable doubt in the claim that Chauvin intended to kill Floyd.

So you don't know what the charges are either.

[Moksha]

I don't think you have to agree with everything Chauvin did to see a reasonable doubt in the claim that Chauvin intended to kill Floyd.

So you are postulating that Chauvin has a mental deficiency to the degree that he did not realize that kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes could result in injury or death?

Ajax, I'm guessing you would take a completely opposite approach if the offending officer was black and the victim was white.

[Gunnar]

I still find Icarus's accusation that Officer Joe Gutierrez is a white supremacist laughable. It reminds me of how the media painted George Zimmerman to be a white supremacist.

Irrelevant! No one, as far as I know, claimed that Gutierrez is a white supremacist, and there are certainly Hispanics who are just as bigoted against blacks as any white supremacist. I have met some. George Zimmerman himself is arguably a good example of that.

[Jersey Girl]

https://ehlinelaw.com/blog/fact-check-floyd-fentanyl

It depends whether you believe the government autopsy or the expert hired by the family to do a different autopsy.

But Floyd was a convicted felon who once pistol whipped a pregnant woman while burglarizing her home. It doesn't surprise me that Jersey Girl who only watches CNN wouldn't know this.

Even that would not excuse Derek Chauvin's murderous attitude and behavior. by the way, what is your source for that claim, and what justification do you have for regarding it as more credible than CNN? And even if it is true, can you show that CNN denied it or tried to cover it up?

He doesn't have a reputable source and George Floyd's past history isn't on trial. Read this whole entry, not just the part that I enlarged.

Later life
Floyd returned to Houston from college in Kingsville, Texas, in 1995 and became an automotive customizer and played club basketball.[15][22] Beginning in 1994, he performed as a rapper using the stage name Big Floyd in the hip-hop group Screwed Up Click.[23][24][25][26] The New York Times described his deep-voiced rhymes as "purposeful", delivered in a slow-motion clip about "'choppin' blades' – driving cars with oversize rims – and his Third Ward pride."[9] The second rap group he was involved in was "Presidential Playas" and he worked on their album Block Party released in 2000.[27][28] An influential member of his community, Floyd was respected for his ability to relate with others in his environment based on a shared experience of hardships and setbacks, having served time in prison and living in a poverty-struck project in Houston.[29] In a video addressing the youth in his neighborhood, Floyd reminds his audience that he has his own "shortcomings" and "flaws" and that he isn't better than anyone else, but also expresses his disdain for the violence that was taking place in the community, and advises his neighbors to put down their weapons and remember that they are loved by him and God.[29]

Between 1997 and 2005, Floyd served eight jail terms on various minor charges, including drug possession, theft, and trespass.[3][9][7][note 1] In 2007, Floyd faced charges for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon; according to investigators, he had entered an apartment by impersonating a water department worker and barging in with five other men, then held a pistol to a woman's stomach and searched for items to steal.[11][30][31] Floyd was arrested three months later during a traffic stop and victims of the robbery identified him from a photo array.[31] In 2009, he was sentenced to five years in prison as part of a plea deal[30][32][33] and was paroled in January 2013.[15] After Floyd's release, he became more involved with Resurrection Houston, a Christian church and ministry, where he mentored young men and posted anti-violence videos to social media.[4][9][34][35] He delivered meals to senior citizens and volunteered with other projects, such as the Angel By Nature Foundation, a charity founded by rapper Trae tha Truth.[36] Later he became involved with a ministry that brought men from the Third Ward to Minnesota in a church-work program with drug rehabilitation and job placement services.[9] A friend of Floyd acknowledged that Floyd "had made some mistakes that cost him some years of his life," but that he had been turning his life around through religion.[29]

In 2014, Floyd moved to Minneapolis to help rebuild his life and find work.[37][38] Soon after his arrival, he completed a 90-day rehabilitation program at the Turning Point program in north Minneapolis. Floyd expressed the need for a job and took up security work at Harbor Light Center, a Salvation Army homeless shelter.[31] He lost the job at Harbor Light and took up several other jobs. Floyd hoped to earn a commercial driver's license to operate trucks. He passed the required drug test and administrators of the program felt his criminal past did not pose a problem, but he dropped out as his job at a nightclub made it difficult to attend morning classes, and he felt pressure to earn money. Floyd later moved to St. Louis Park and lived with former colleagues.[31] Floyd continued to battle drug addiction and went through periods of use and sobriety.[31]

In May 2019, Floyd was detained by Minneapolis police when an unlicensed car he was a passenger in was pulled over in a traffic stop. Floyd was found with a bottle of pain pills. Officers handcuffed Floyd and took him to the city's third police precinct station. Floyd told police he did not sell the pills and that they were related to his own addiction. When Floyd appeared agitated, officers encouraged him to relax and helped calm him down, and they later called an ambulance as they grew worried about his condition. No charges were filed in connection with the incident.[31]

In 2019, George Floyd worked security at the El Nuevo Rodeo club, where police officer Derek Chauvin also worked off-duty as a security guard.[39]

In 2020, Floyd was working part time as a security guard at the Conga Latin Bistro club, and began another job as a delivery driver. Floyd lost the delivery driver job in January after being cited for driving without a valid commercial license and for being involved in a minor crash. He was looking for another job when the COVID-pandemic hit Minnesota, and his personal financial situation worsened when the club closed in mid March due to pandemic rules.[31] In April of that year, Floyd contracted COVID-19 himself, but recovered a few weeks later.[9][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd

[Gunnar]

He doesn't have a reputable source and George Floyd's past history isn't on trial. Read this whole entry, not just the part that I enlarged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd

Thanks for researching and posting all that, Jersey Girl. I certainly read it. I wish ajax would, and would honestly consider it.

Note to ajax: have you read it? Does any of the information therein change your opinion of George Lloyd and the justice of the murder trial against Chauvin? If not, why not? To still hold that Lloyd is a worthless human being deserving of what the cops did to him, and that Chauvin does not deserve to be convicted of murder is every bit as irrational as believing the world is flat or that 2 plus 2 equals 5. To continue to cling to your hateful attitude towards minorities is not just irrational, but also deeply immoral. It is as antithetical to the teachings of Jesus Christ that you claim to believe in as anything could possibly be.

[ajax18]

The Gutierrez/Nazario case seems to be just an abuse of power based on what is known. But lumping Gutierrez in as being white is a way in which the left has skewed criminal statistics against white people for decades. Gutierrez pulled Nazzario over for no license even though Nazario put a temporary license visible in the windshield. I'm sure there are plenty of people mistreated by law enforcement all the time. But it's only a story if the victim is black and if you can somehow shoehorn the officer in as being white and preferably anglo. Is Gutierrez a southern racist white man? I guess it's close enough for the media even though were careful not to mention his name. Had his name been Johnson we would have known immediately.

I don't think Floyd got what he deserved. But the idea that police are just randomly hunting down black people for no other reason than being black is a media lie spun to drive their narrartive. More often than not the victims of police brutality are pushing the limits, resisting arrest, have a criminal history, etc. All of this is omitted initially, posted to Facebook or cnn, a riot is then stirred up causing millions of dollars in damage, followed by million in taxpayer payouts.