Socialist Distancing

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Re: Socialist Distancing

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:14 pm
Too many folks don't understand this. Many of them will never understand this because they don't want to.
So we just lock down forever?

Nope. We just have to get pretty well everybody vaccinated, so the virus has no place to go and get copied and in the process of copying find new ways to kill us. Then the job is done.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:14 pm
Since you have been vaccinated, you know enough to know you are now protected.
Who exactly on your side is admitting vaccinated people are now protected?
I don't have a side, but you just have to look at each vaccines and the data it shows in protecting people from covid 19. I suspect you have never looked at the data.
The only reason I got vaccinated was to keep my job and be allowed to go to work without getting charged for homicide. I've tested positive for COVID and so has all my extended family at this point, long before we had access to a vaccine.
Employers can require vaccinations. Vaccinations are very safe and even people who have had covid 19 should still get them. I am sure you have had many vaccinations that has protected you from many different virus's in your lifetime, so why be so negative against this one?
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:14 pm
Too many folks don't understand this. Many of them will never understand this because they don't want to.
So we just lock down forever?
No. Just follow the example of other areas that were able to control the spread and the population were better at following recommendations. That keeps spread down and buys time until vaccinations can be used to give everyone protection.
Isn't COVID a descendant of SARS? Viruses are here and they will always be able to mutate. Trying to eradicate death is going to destroy our quality of life.
We live in a world now where virus's can travel the planet in less than a day because human's are connected like never before and can travel in a matter of hours across the world. This was not true of the past. Doing nothing is just really dumb since we have the knowledge and tools to save billions of people. If the world had treated covid 19 like other corona virus's like the common cold you would see millions of deaths in the US and even more long term health issues that would have a massive long term cost. There have been more deadly virus's in the past 20 years, but due to lower transmissibility they we contained. Good thing you were not in charge.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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Covid wasn't contained!!! It just turned out to be a lot less deadly than the models predicted.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:54 pm
Covid wasn't contained!!! It just turned out to be a lot less deadly than the models predicted.
Oh and what did the models say and show what the mortality rate is now for wild type and the top variants? I don't expect you will even look.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:14 pm
Too many folks don't understand this. Many of them will never understand this because they don't want to.
So we just lock down forever?

If only the virus had been killed stone dead as soon as it appeared, it would never have had the chance to mutate.
Isn't COVID a descendant of SARS? Viruses are here and they will always be able to mutate. Trying to eradicate death is going to destroy our quality of life.
No, not a descendant of SARS. Both are coronavirus, as are MERS and several cold viruses.

Nope. We all get vaccinated. Even then, just like with measles, we will likely have outbreaks from time to time. And we’ll handle those as they come up.

And talk about destroying quality of life. Remember when eradicating smallpox from the entire world destroyed our quality of life? And polio— remember when eradicating polio from almost the entire world destroyed our quality of life? Yeah, me neither.

During the first wave of lockdowns, epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists warned that if we didn’t test, isolate, trace and quarantine, we’d end up having to lock down multiple times to keep from overrunning our hospitals. But doing those things required a population that was willing to stay home two weeks when sick, wear masks and social distance, cooperate with contact tracers and quarantine for two weeks when exposed. But, no, because freedumb.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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Well I don't think our ancestors would have ever tolerated 45% unemployment to save what amounted to at most 0.2% of people, most of which were already toward the end of their lives anyway. Thankfully they didn't dump untold trillions of dollars in debt as a result upon us as their posterity as we've done to our posterity.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:37 am
Well I don't think our ancestors would have ever tolerated 45% unemployment to save what amounted to at most 0.2% of people, most of which were already toward the end of their lives anyway. Thankfully they didn't dump untold trillions of dollars in debt as a result upon us as their posterity as we've done to our posterity.
Do you actually believe that we were experiencing 45% unemployment (as unemployment is traditionally defined, as not including retired folks and children) at the worst point of the ‘lockdowns’?

Or are you trying to claim that there was a 55% labor participation rate occurring at the time?

Please explain this figure.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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canpakes wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:19 am
ajax18 wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:37 am
Well I don't think our ancestors would have ever tolerated 45% unemployment to save what amounted to at most 0.2% of people, most of which were already toward the end of their lives anyway. Thankfully they didn't dump untold trillions of dollars in debt as a result upon us as their posterity as we've done to our posterity.
Do you actually believe that we were experiencing 45% unemployment (as unemployment is traditionally defined, as not including retired folks and children) at the worst point of the ‘lockdowns’?

Or are you trying to claim that there was a 55% labor participation rate occurring at the time?

Please explain this figure.
None of his figures make sense.
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Re: Socialist Distancing

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:45 am
None of his figures make sense.
It is remarkable how little of what he says makes sense when he is expounding on subjects other than optometry and the human eye--his one real area of expertise and competence.
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