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Re: Socialist Distancing

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:06 pm
lol, if I were scared of dying from COVID.
That's what the liberals are counting on. Kidding aside, I don't think people should be afraid of dying, but they should be doing good risk assessment. Something you lack due to your extreme bias. Since you have been vaccinated, you know enough to know you are now protected. Covid 19 never should have become a political issue, but some conservatives just can't help themselves. If liberals think one way they have to think the opposite.
What actually scares me is having my job shut down, being forced to work on the black market, and seeing more enormous chunks of my inflated paycheck dollars being redistributed under the guise of COVID.
Those of course are unfounded fears based on extreme bias and ignorance.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:22 pm
I'll take 550,000/250 million odds any day. That's about 0.2%.
While your numbers are wildly inaccurate, 0.2 % chance of death from one event is very high. One would only need to repeat this kind of event 500 times to likely die. No one in the right minds would ever get on a plane if this was the chance of dying every time they fly.
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What actually scares me is having my job shut down, being forced to work on the black market, and seeing more enormous chunks of my inflated paycheck dollars being redistributed under the guise of COVID.
Those of course are unfounded fears based on extreme bias and ignorance.
I wish that were true. Thankfully it's less true for me living in a red state with a stalwart governor willing to stand up to the globalists.

And since you want to talk about irrational fears, how many people ended up being permanently disabled from COVID? How many careers did Novak Djokovic ruin due to the tournament held in the Balkans?
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:37 pm
https://babylonbee.com/news/more-conser ... -from-them

Fact check coming in 3, 2, 1... Don't ever say I don't have a sense of humor.
Thanks for the chuckle, Jax.

(Also: is it just me, or has there been over the past few years something of a spike in the instances of threads that start out pre-Godwined?)
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:49 pm
And since you want to talk about irrational fears, how many people ended up being permanently disabled from COVID?
We won't know until the pandemic is long over. Over 500,000 deaths in less then a year in the US with some restrictions is very high and we are talking about real people Ajax. Long term health problems will be much higher and very costly to society. One of the reason we want to keep the number of virus down is because virus's mutate at a consistent rate. The more of them the more mutations you get. The more mutations you get the more likely one will produce a more transmissible and more deadly virus. This is happening as we see with the UK variants and South African. The P1 from Brazil is looking to be even worse and vaccines less effective against. The virus will continue to make more variants at a high rate if we keep having a lot of the virus circulating in human populations. The P1 variant is more deadly than the wild type, but we don't know if future mutations could produce even more deadly variants and need new vaccines to fight them.
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Themis wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:49 pm
One of the reason we want to keep the number of virus down is because virus's mutate at a consistent rate. The more of them the more mutations you get. The more mutations you get the more likely one will produce a more transmissible and more deadly virus.
I can't stress enough how important this is.

If only the virus had been killed stone dead as soon as it appeared, it would never have had the chance to mutate. But now there are many many people who are getting the virus into them every single minute of every single day. And every time it takes over the mechanisms of a human cell to make copies of itself, little errors (mutations) creep in. Some of those errors lower the virus's ability to infect people, and hence such errors don't get copied much. But if the error makes the virus more infectious, up go its chances of getting copied when it infects other people, who therefore infect even more people with the more infectious form of the virus, who then infect more people ...

So the more people who are infected by the virus, the greater the chances are that the virus will become more infectious, perhaps even to the extent of being able to infect people who have been vaccinated.. And (surprise!) that's just what it is doing. Unless we can greatly reduce the rate of infection IN EVERY COUNTRY (not just in 'our' country, whichever that happens to be) the human race is, in the long run, in for greatly increased rates of infection and death.
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Did you see the South Park pandemic special? South Park isn't what it once was, but it was still pretty funny. Eric Cartman embracing social distancing by carrying around 6' pole to keep people away from him was pretty funny.

The problem with right-wing humor aside from pushing unseemly ideology, is that it is rarely if ever actually clever.
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Chap wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:16 pm
Themis wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:49 pm
One of the reason we want to keep the number of virus down is because virus's mutate at a consistent rate. The more of them the more mutations you get. The more mutations you get the more likely one will produce a more transmissible and more deadly virus.
I can't stress enough how important this is.

If only the virus had been killed stone dead as soon as it appeared, it would never have had the chance to mutate. But now there are many many people who are getting the virus into them every single minute of every single day. And every time it takes over the mechanisms of a human cell to make copies of itself, little errors (mutations) creep in. Some of those errors lower the virus's ability to infect people, and hence such errors don't get copied much. But if the error makes the virus more infectious, up go its chances of getting copied when it infects other people, who therefore infect even more people with the more infectious form of the virus, who then infect more people ...

So the more people who are infected by the virus, the greater the chances are that the virus will become more infectious, perhaps even to the extent of being able to infect people who have been vaccinated.. And (surprise!) that's just what it is doing. Unless we can greatly reduce the rate of infection IN EVERY COUNTRY (not just in 'our' country, whichever that happens to be) the human race is, in the long run, in for greatly increased rates of infection and death.
Too many folks don't understand this. Many of them will never understand this because they don't want to.
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Since you have been vaccinated, you know enough to know you are now protected.
Who exactly on your side is admitting vaccinated people are now protected? The only reason I got vaccinated was to keep my job and be allowed to go to work without getting charged for homicide. I've tested positive for COVID and so has all my extended family at this point, long before we had access to a vaccine.
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Too many folks don't understand this. Many of them will never understand this because they don't want to.
So we just lock down forever?

If only the virus had been killed stone dead as soon as it appeared, it would never have had the chance to mutate.
Isn't COVID a descendant of SARS? Viruses are here and they will always be able to mutate. Trying to eradicate death is going to destroy our quality of life.
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