What's your chance of hospitalization if infected with COVID?

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ajax18 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:18 pm
And in reply you double down on the nonsense! Incredible! :roll:
The only nonsense is that so many Democrats believe that you have a 50% chance of being hospitalized from COVID. That's not because of low IQ. It's because of the partisan slant and outright lies of the mainstream media they trust. You're not informed voters and your information is certainly not based on science.
I have never believed that nonsense, and have kept up the the science all along, nor has the mainstream media I subscribe to promoted such lies. I have several competent medical professionals among my close relatives, and I guarantee that they are far, far better informed on these issues than you have so far shown yourself to be. And as for slanted media, none have shown a stronger or more dishonest slant than hard right wing media such as Fox News, Breitbart, Newsmax or OAN. Fox news personalities like Tucker Carlson, for example, no longer even pretend to not be sympathetic to white supremacist ideals and anti-science. One of the very few Fox News personalities who deserves any respect from honest people is Chris Wallace.
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I have never believed that nonsense, and have kept up the the science all along, nor has the mainstream media I subscribe to promoted such lies.
Really, so why do you think so many Democrats believed that you have a 50% chance of being hospitalized if you get COVID in this survey taken in March 2021?
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:58 pm
I have never believed that nonsense, and have kept up the the science all along, nor has the mainstream media I subscribe to promoted such lies.
Really, so why do you think so many Democrats believed that you have a 50% chance of being hospitalized if you get COVID in this survey taken in March 2021?
None of my Democrat friends, as far as I know, believe that nonsense. And I have never seen it reported on any news media I generally rely on that you have a 50% chance of being hospitalized if you get COVID. This is not to say that there aren't some people who tend to be alarmist and exaggerate their fears and over interpret bad news when they hear it. What I do remember them saying is that those who are hospitalized due to COVID are far more likely to die from it than those who didn't need hospitalization, and the mortality rate of COVID ICU patients can be as high as 50%. I think there is little dispute about that. My guess is that some who heard about the 50% mortality rate of COVID ICU patients mistakenly conflated that into 50% hospitalization rate for COVID victims in general. And I don't think that mistakenly reading more into the news than was actually there is unique to Democrats. In fact, it is pandemic among dissidents and conspiracy theorists who are biased against mainstream news media, and determined to find or invent any excuse for dismissing it out of hand.

This is not to say that mainstream media deserves to be beyond all criticism. They have been known to err on occasion or even exaggerate a bit, but from what I have seen, they tend to be more amenable to correction and retraction when shown to be in error.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 7:31 pm
If that were the case you wouldn't need federal bailout money from red states.
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None of my Democrat friends, as far as I know, believe that nonsense.
41% of Democrats in the survey believed that you have a 50% risk of being hospitalized if you are infected with COVID.
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Maybe not you, per se, but Trumpist, Republican conservatives are the only ones trying to do so. They are the ones who are trying their darnedest to suppress voting--especially by minorities, and they are the only ones insisting and doubling down on the big lie that the election was stolen, despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, and supporting the asinine Cyber Ninja recount of ballots in Arizona, despite numerous recounts by reputable, bipartisan well qualified election committees that have already proven many times over that the election was fair and accurate.


What is there not to trust about Doug Logan and his army of Cyber Ninjas 'auditing' the results of the Maricopa County, AZ election??


"They’ve handed the materials over to Cyber Ninjas, a Florida-based consultancy with no election experience run by a man who has shared unfounded conspiracy theories claiming the official 2020 presidential election results are illegitimate."
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Arizona Is Holding Yet Another 2020 Recount. The Company Running It Makes It Even Worse.
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I came across this subreddit today, and thought Xanax might feel at home there. For the rest of us, it’s damned awesome.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSupporters/

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 1:23 am
None of my Democrat friends, as far as I know, believe that nonsense.
41% of Democrats in the survey believed that you have a 50% risk of being hospitalized if you are infected with COVID.
1. None of my close acquaintances, Democrat or not, are included in that 41%.

2. Though it is possible that some of the people surveyed mistakenly inferred that from news sources they heard or read, I know of no mainstream news sources that ever actually claimed that either explicitly or implicitly. I doubt that you can find any either.

3. It is well documented, however, that those few COVID victims and patients who become sick enough to need hospitalization are far more likely to die than those who don't, especially if they wind up in the ICU and/or require a ventilator. Those few who get that sick are far more newsworthy than those who don't, and it is therefore not surprising that there is tendency for some to mistakenly inflate the danger of COVID in their minds. Nevertheless, the mainstream media that I rely on for news have always been clear about the fact that the vast majority of confirmed COVID victims experience relatively mild symptoms, if any at all. It has also been widely reported and/or speculated that many have have had it without even knowing it. This I also learned from mainstream media sources, so I reject the notion that there is any concerted conspiracy by mainstream media to exaggerate the seriousness and danger of COVID-19.

4. Having said all the above, it is probably true that Democrats and independents are more likely to take the threat of the pandemic seriously, and perhaps even a bit too seriously in some cases, but better that than ignoring the danger entirely and pretending it doesn't even exist, as too many hard core conservative Trump fan idiots are wont to do. Surely you are aware of the widely publicized stories of diehard COVID deniers who literally died hard because of their adamant refusal to take it seriously or follow even the most minimal recommended guidelines to protect themselves from exposure.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 am
I came across this subreddit today, and thought Xanax might feel at home there. For the rest of us, it’s stupid awesome.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSupporters/

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The media/Democrats wanted the economy handcuffed and stifled as a means to force tax and spend socialism upon those who opposed it. This was achieved by bullying and condemning those who continued to go to work as murderers and whipping up a frenzy at fear of how many people would be left permanently disabled due to COVID infection. A year later, 99% of us are still alive and healthy but only $8 trillion poorer with an accelerating national debt and a Democrat in office.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 2:54 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 am
I came across this subreddit today, and thought Xanax might feel at home there. For the rest of us, it’s stupid awesome.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSupporters/

- Doc
The media/Democrats wanted the economy handcuffed and stifled as a means to force tax and spend socialism upon those who opposed it. This was achieved by bullying and condemning those who continued to go to work as murderers and whipping up a frenzy at fear of how many people would be left permanently disabled due to COVID infection. A year later, 99% of us are still alive and healthy but only $8 trillion poorer with an accelerating national debt and a Democrat in office.
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