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Johnny Cash in Facsimile No. 1?

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:58 pm
by Shulem
1) Click the link below to view Facsimile No. 1 in Lucy Mack's portrait:
2) Hover over the Facsimile and click the magnifier (+) to increase the image size

Portrait of Smith in Nauvoo -- and a vignette from the Book of Abraham is on the wall

There can be no doubt about it! Look closely. How did the artist envision the so-called priest?

Is he a black man, a negro? No.

Black as in Anubis? No.

He's a white man dressed in black! Just look at the head and the hand -- the skin is white. The arm, body, legs, and feet are black because they are black CLOTHING! Notice the collar and the kilt are accessories to the clothing. I had never noticed that before!! The man is dressed in BLACK, not unlike Johnny Cash, the man in black. This is how the artist visualized Smith's priest in the publication of the Facsimile. This goes to show just how WRONG the Mormons (including Smith) were in interpreting Egyptian iconography. It's so far off the mark. Everything Smith said about Facsimile No. 1 was far off the mark!

Re: Pearl of Great Price Central Facsimile 1 as a Sacrifice Scene

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:58 pm
by Shulem
GEE wrote:Abraham’s homeland was incorporated as part of the Egyptian empire under the Twelfth Dynasty pharaohs Sesostris III and his son, Amenemhet III, but it was then lost to the subsequent pharaohs. This provides a historical date for the events of the first chapter of the Book of Abraham.

At that time Egypt practiced human sacrifice, as historical and archaeological evidence both attest. It was a ritual (Abraham 1:7–11, 15) directed against religious offenders (Abraham 1:5–6) that could take place either in Egypt or in areas Egypt influenced (Abraham 1:1, 10, 20).

Show me an inscription where these so-called human sacrifices were performed using a lion bed and an Egyptian priest who is DRESSED IN BLACK. I want to see the priest wearing a black costume having a human head. Egyptian priests wore white linen and leopard skins about their person. Where are these black dressed priests? There are numerous executions scenes depicted on walls and stone monuments throughout dynastic Egypt and I've yet to see a BLACK clothed priest waving a knife at a lion bed performing a human sacrifice.

The Mormon Egyptologists have NOTHING to back this assertion other than the false restoration of Smith's pseudo-Egyptology of Facsimile No. 1.

John Gee is a liar. Liar, liar, pants on fire!

Re: Pearl of Great Price Central Facsimile 1 as a Sacrifice Scene

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:59 pm
by Shulem

Standing proud underneath the lion bed are four stone vessels in the image of the Four Sons of Horus lined up in their duty as keepers of the mummy's viscera. The Book of the Dead provides the necessary spells to grant resurrection in the afterlife.

Joseph Smith's pseudo-Egyptology assigns fictitious names for the Four Sons of Horus. No Egyptian priest from any dynasty would know these names as divine representations of funerary magic associated with the lion bed.


Re: Pearl of Great Price Central Facsimile 1 as a Sacrifice Scene

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:00 pm
by Shulem
Facsimile No. 1 wrote:Fig. 12. Raukeeyang, signifying expanse, or the firmament over our heads
What Egyptian priest from any dynasty calls the sky by Raukeeyang and not pet? This pseudo-Egyptology asserted by Smith is utter rubbish and has no place in modern Egyptology let alone ancient Egypt. The word Raukeeyang is not inscribed on any tomb wall or penned on any papyrus in ancient Egypt. Smith's inventions are a product of his own mind and do NOT speak for the Egyptians.

Facsimile No. 1 wrote:the Egyptians meant it to signify Shaumau, to be high, or the heavens, answering to the Hebrew word, Shaumahyeem.
No, the Egyptians did not signify anything by Shaumau or Shaumahyeem. This is more garbage made up by Smith in a vain attempt to connect the ancient Egyptian language to Smith's Hebrew brand of pseudo-Egyptology. The notion is entirely false. Hebrew is not written on tomb walls in Egypt. There is no such thing as Shaumau or Shaumahyeem written or spoken in ancient Egypt.

No nonMormon Egyptologist puts any stock into this garbage. Mormon Egyptologists are paid by BYU to lie and spit out crummy articles to support Smith's pseudo-Egyptology. These articles that contain Smith's pseudo-nonsense are not peer-reviewed or approved by their peers.


Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:01 pm
by Shulem
Another witness beside Robert Ritner

Egyptologist JUAN JOSÉ CASTILLOS wrote: The other item I would like to discuss here is the book, "The Pearl of Great Price" in what concerns egyptology, that is, the three figures that accompany the Book of Abraham and are called "Facsimiles" of such a book.

Number 1 consists of the very common scene of Anubis (which here appears with a human head) embalming the deceased, under the bed there are the four canopic jars containing the organs extracted from the mummy and there is also a bird, which in the normal Egyptian vignettes has a human head and represents the soul (ba) of the dead person.

The detailed interpretation and translation that Joseph Smith made of these common ancient Egyptian funerary scenes is quite absurd, to put it mildly, for instance, in Number 1, the figure is seen as a pagan priest about to sacrifice Abraham and the canopic jars are described as "idols", the ba or soul of the deceased is described as "the Angel of the Lord"

. . . . . . read on to see how Smith is slammed by a modern Egyptologist

Re: Pearl of Great Price Central Facsimile 1 as a Sacrifice Scene

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:01 pm
by Shulem
consiglieri wrote: So how does Joseph Smith come up with two absolutely correct Egyptian theophoric suffixes for his ladies?

Ze-PTAH and Katu-MIN?

Were both Ptah and Min known as Egyptian deities by the 1840s?

Asking for a friend.


I've picked up the pace and am working on Part III of Here comes the Book of Abraham which includes origins of the Book of Abraham and anachronistic terms used in chapter 1. The name Zeptah will be fully examined and I can assure you that I'm going to turn John Gee and apologists on their heads. I've got some real surprises coming out of my canon -- big time advances are being made as I assemble this piece.

It's going to be a game changer and set the apologists back with their head's spinning. There is so much yet to present but by the time I drop my chronological bombs it will spell the end of the Book of Abraham and the apologists aren't going to know what to do. Poor Gee. He's pathetic.

These are exciting times! I'm glad you're a part of it.


The following links in WIKIPEDIA are excellent sources worth bookmarking to acquire quick information about the Joseph Smith papyrus and learn more about this controversial subject.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Book of Abraham
Joseph Smith Papyri
Criticism of the Book of Abraham
Joseph Smith Hypocephalus
Kirtland Egyptian papers
Book of Joseph (Latter Day Saints)
File:Facsimile 3 plate anubis.jpg
Eyewitness accounts associated with the Joseph Smith Papyri
Breathing Permit of Hôr

Re: Pearl of Great Price Central Facsimile 1 as a Sacrifice Scene

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:44 pm
by hauslern
I found a site that discussed how hands were drawn. All the fingers were of the same length
In Fac 1 do you think the hand above is a wing or a hand based on what this information seems to prove ... xzNFI/edit

Sorry I have changed the link to "anyone can see it" Thanks Shulem for your extra research

Re: Pearl of Great Price Central Facsimile 1 as a Sacrifice Scene

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:12 pm
by Shulem
hauslern wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:44 pm
I found a site that discussed how hands were drawn. All the fingers were of the same length
In Fac 1 do you think the hand above is a wing or a hand based on what this information seems to prove ... xzNFI/edit

Years ago, I took this matter into consideration while working as a Book of Abraham apologist. Thumb or Bird Wing? In the end, it seems somewhat inconclusive, but I really don't know for sure. Here is what I had to say on my old website:

The Institute for Religious Research published a book entitled " his own hand upon papyrus"; authored by Charles Larson. On page 65 there is what they call a restoration of Facsimile No. 1. The artist inserts a bird in the lucuna of the original papyrus to show a falcon bird that rests gently above the active man (see figure A). Hence, their version of the Facsimile is a whole lot different than Joseph Smith's. The Larson idea of a bird wing is at odds with the conclusion of what some respected Egyptologists have to say regarding the Lacuna and their statements are posted at the end of this article.


Is the Charles Larson drawing of a bird within the lucuna in harmony with Egyptology and the drawing on the original papyrus?


A close look at the original papyrus below shows that human hands with fingers and thumbs are raised over Abraham's head. Therefore, Joseph Smith's reconstruction with two arms attached to two hands is correct. The upper hand is NOT the tip of a wing as proposed by critics of the Book of Abraham!

1. "From the images on the website, I would say that the traces certainly resemble a hand and thumb rather than a bird's wing."

Dr R. B. Parkinson
Assistant Keeper
Dept of Ancient Egypt and Sudan

2. "They certainly look like hands to me"

Dr. Rita Freed
Curator of Egyptian,
Nubian, and Ancient Near Eastern Art at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston

I hope that helps. Thanks for asking.

Noah's Pre-Egypt

Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 10:26 pm
by Shulem
John Dehlin hits a pair of GRAND SLAMS!

Please grant a few minutes of your time for these ultimate slam dunks that destroy the Book of Abraham story! This is the most powerful argument against the historicity of the Book of Abraham. Slam dunk!

John Dehlin, YOU rock, baby!

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Listen for 2 minutes here: Noah's Flood w/ Dr. Simon Southerton
John Dehlin (Mormon Spories) wrote:If the Church is timing Noah's flood to be 2000 BCE, that means that Egyptian civilization is no more than 4,000 years old...

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Re: Pearl of Great Price Central Facsimile 1 as a Sacrifice Scene

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:26 pm
by Shulem
Moksha wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:30 am

Shulem, could you help interpret this new facsimile from the Church's agreement with the SEC?

This thread sums up the true meaning of Facsimile No. 1 which in a nutshell is how two persons depicted therein are two of the very best friends who were said to live in ancient times. Anubis and Osiris loved each other and the nurturing and goodwill expressed in this resurrection scene is truly amazing. The glorious expression and importance of this scene is equal to anything the Christian religion can produce, whether it's a crucifixion scene or a resurrection scene. The salvation scene featuring Anubis and Osiris is sacred to the ancient Egyptians and conjures up their beliefs that are of equal weight to anything taught in Christianity or Mormonism.

Unfortunately, Joseph Smith made a solid mockery of the sacred beliefs and rituals of the Egyptians. LDS Egyptologists continue to support that mockery with their silly apologetics in supporting fraudulent interpretations through Joseph Smith's scheme to defraud everyone who believed he could translate and interpret Egyptian. The Mormons make a mockery of the Egyptian gods, temples, and rituals. It is shameful to say the least. A white man's head placed atop the body of black Anubis is a horrible insult to ancient Egypt. Mormon Egyptologists continue to support this distorted view which Smith created. It's an absolute abomination! Mormon apologists use principles of DECEPTION much like the Church and its financial advisors do with Church funds hidden away in secret accounts in laundering sacred donations provided by faithful members who thought that money was going to build up the kingdom and aid in providing relief to less fortunate persons. Mormonism is all about deception and covering up lies.

There are several posts in this thread that shed light on the improvised image above that depicts Anubis and Osiris greeting each other while they discuss their business of being gods to the Egyptians.

Here are some points in this thread that help explain the foundation and structure of the vignette of Facsimile No. 1:

begin here