Pokatator wrote:CFR How did you come up with that ratio?
Julianne Reynolds = 1
Pokatator Zoidberg Roll-over for anything Ms. Scratch Kevin Graham Coggins Guy Sajer Infymus PP VegasBlight Trixie Blixa Harmony Some Schmo Ray A GIMR Capt Jack James Muir That Moron, James Bond marg why me = 21
Oops. Miscounted.
21 to 1.
I am invisible!
Don't feel bad. Runtu, Moksha, Truth Dancer, and I didn't make Bob's list, either. And, ironically, neither did Dr. Shades! LOL
liz3564 wrote:Don't feel bad. Runtu, Moksha, Truth Dancer, and I didn't make Bob's list, either. And, ironically, neither did Dr. Shades! LOL
I thought it was funny that some of those on the list are not only church members but posters on MAD. And for the record, I don't believe most of the people on Bob's list are particularly angry.
I've been married for over a decade. I made a committment to my husband. I feel we love each other. I've contributed my whole self to my marriage.
Let's imagine that last week I stumbled upon some information about my husband. Just a little blip, something on my credit card statement about a hotel room. The more I look, the more information I find. Where just two weeks ago I thought my husband loved me and was beyond reproach I now know he's been carrying on a second life. He has been cheating on me constantly. He has committed crimes.
I decide I just can't stay with him. He's not who I thought he was at all. My feelings of love are real. My feelings of committment are real. The situation has changed, though. He changed the terms of our relationship.
Now I'm separated, going through a divorce. My family will not support me. They won't tolerate me saying anything about my husband. The evidence is dismissed as lies. I'm expected to keep my anger and sadness to myself. I'm told - hey, you have been released from a marriage that was a fraud. Why aren't you the happiest person on the block? Yeah, like I should be happy for spending good years with a husband that didn't return my committment. I should be happy that I made financial sacrifices.
There is real pain in my journey out of the church. For one thing my father has been either in the Bishopric or the Stake Presidency for 27 consecutive years. My father had a job that required him to travel M-F then he spent all weekend at church. For 27 years I have not seen my dad that much. He's retiring and plans to leave on a mission within a few months. I will jump anyone's case who flippanty dismisses my dad for this, okay. My dad would never say no to a calling at church. He did go once to ask to be released and was told to pray more and try harder. My dad is one of the best people I know. He might be your stake president. I was the child who answered the phone when people called after suicide attempts, after being beaten by their husbands, on the brink of divorce, when they found out their child had a gun. Was my father supposed to say, sorry person in the ER, my daughter has an orchestra concert tonight so you'll just have to hang in there? No, that person took priority. There is a real pain in not having my father in my life. There's also an anger that the church would ask so much of my father.
Thank you for your post. Your analogy of the unfaithful husband pins down my sentiments.
So far as church callings, yes, many of us (including our children) have spent much of our/their childhood as orphans raised by sunday school and seminary teachers, scoutmasters and primary choristers.
Like many, I devoted many years giving what was left of my energy to blessing other people and their children while mine sometimes suffered from neglect. No doubt your father has many that are indebted to his sacrifice, to his merit - but the rush felt by simply being a father should have taken precedence and been acknowledged by those that gave him his stewardship.
It's good that many of us are begining to understand the madness for what it is.
Why Me, you can't understand the anger of exmos and I can't understand your incessant bellyaching over being banned at Post Mormon and fence-sitting when it comes to Mormonism.
Perhaps it's because I'm a reprobate apostate, but I'd rather be angry than whiny any day. At least I have a spine and know what I want and don't hem and haw around like you do. You seriously need to develop some spunk.
Zoidberg wrote:Bob, it seems to me that you like to wear a purple Hello Kitty thong at least once a week. Of course, I could be wrong and if so, I apologize.
Zoidberg, please don't ever do this again. I need to be much better prepared, emotionally and mentally, before such images are thrust into my mind.
Of course, if my remarks are at all offensive to you, or to Bob, I apologize.
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
Zoidberg wrote:Bob, it seems to me that you like to wear a purple Hello Kitty thong at least once a week....
Doesn't everyone?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Zoidberg wrote:Bob, it seems to me that you like to wear a purple Hello Kitty thong at least once a week. Of course, I could be wrong and if so, I apologize.
Zoidberg, please don't ever do this again. I need to be much better prepared, emotionally and mentally, before such images are thrust into my mind.
Of course, if my remarks are at all offensive to you, or to Bob, I apologize.
Sorry. You know, you should really go look at this.
"reason and religion are friends and allies" - Mitt Romney
whyme presents a false dichotomy. It is quite possible to be a generally happy person and, at times, be quite angry. Justified anger is valuable. Happiness is not some sort of drug that renders one always calm and cheery.
The whole point is, of course, that whyme judges that exmormon anger is unjustified. Anyone who still believes that "the church is true" is obviously going to believe exmormon anger is completely unjustified.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.