The sex thread

[_Tori]

And while your posing, perhaps you could answer the following questions, selected from the Temple recommend interview (italicized portions are of specific interest):

1. Do you believe in God, the Eternal Father, in his Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost; and do you have a firm testimony of the restored gospel?

2. Do you sustain the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the prophet, seer, and revelator; and do you recognize him as the only person on the earth authorized to exercise all priesthood keys?

3. Do you sustain the other General Authorities and the local authorities of the Church?

4. Do you live the law of chastity?

6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?

7. Do you earnestly strive to do your duty in the Church; to attend your sacrament, priesthood, and other meetings; and to obey the rules, laws, and commandments of the gospel?

8. Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

9. Are you a full-tithe payer?

10. Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12. If you have received your temple endowment -- (a) Do you keep all the covenants that you made in the temple? (b) Do you wear the authorized garments both day and night?

Isn't there a question about wearing garments both day and night? Oh, there it is. I didn't see it until I posted. My mistake.

[_harmony]

And while your posing, perhaps you could answer the following questions, selected from the Temple recommend interview (italicized portions are of specific interest):

1. Do you believe in God, the Eternal Father, in his Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost; and do you have a firm testimony of the restored gospel?

2. Do you sustain the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the prophet, seer, and revelator; and do you recognize him as the only person on the earth authorized to exercise all priesthood keys?

3. Do you sustain the other General Authorities and the local authorities of the Church?

4. Do you live the law of chastity?

6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?

7. Do you earnestly strive to do your duty in the Church; to attend your sacrament, priesthood, and other meetings; and to obey the rules, laws, and commandments of the gospel?

8. Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

9. Are you a full-tithe payer?

10. Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12. If you have received your temple endowment -- (a) Do you keep all the covenants that you made in the temple? (b) Do you wear the authorized garments both day and night?

When you are called as my bishop, I'll be pleased to answer these. Until then, take a long walk off a short bridge.

[_Roger Morrison]

Hi Huck, ya got me a bit confused with the 3-step back, and then the before thing... as pasted below:

But before I took those four five steps back I was stunned by what appeared to be the incredible negative stereotypes of gentles. You mean people actual believe the Brigham Young histeronics? fornication pants and all. I mean that sort of gentile hate must have been amusing in a land far out west. But I find myself think it is really difficult to converse with you about other Christian beliefs.If you actually believe this sort bizarre extremes then there is little reason to wonder why. Throwing up in bed.... jeez same to you.

Maybe it does appear as "...negative stereotypes of gentiles..." Not meant to be be so 'generalized'. OTOH, you have no way of knowing my past, my experience, or my journeys. Nor what appealed to me/us as very young, wanting-to-be-good-parents, in LDSism. That appeal was to associate with a group of non-smokers--not easy in the '50s, when "Smoke-free" wasn't in the lexicon, i had quite several years earlier--and non-drinkers. I quite that when i became serious with my "steady".

To dance without putting up with smoke and inebriates/drunks was to us a real blessing. WE loved to "Rock", and still do! :-) In those days there was an LDS event "THE Golden Green Ball". A bit pretensious in our Blue-collar city, but for many converts, in the Mission, it did introduce some good-to-knows. And, as i never deny, LDSism does contain, and encourages many good human qualities. What happened to the GGB?

Obviously, i see negatives today that i didn't see as this enthrawled, idealistic young wanna-be. As you might know, critical thinking was/is not encouraged in LDSism. That however did not prevent my individuality from remaining, and to enhance through my LDS decades. Eventually evolving to who IAM presently. Few regrets, preLDS, while LDS, or post LDS.

BYU impressed me as a leader. Knew he had lots of wives. So what? I knew guys with multiple women not married to any but the first unlucky one. "Fornication pants" cute term, but getting-into-pants was the game the cool-guys played. Ironically, one of the reasons to become Mormon: protect our daughters from that type. In the 60s Wife, and me with another fun couple had THE best MIA in the Stake! Parties, Dances, Birthday celebrations, and THE best and quietest, attentive night ever--"A RINGO NITE!" The one and only. Some yacker went home and told of all the fun they had playing "BINGO" LOL!

Mark E. Peterson always bothered me. He was just too handsome. I imagine him having one awful time with his libido in the LDS culture of human abnormalities. Hence his constant diatribe about "sexual matters".

That he would boast about "...never seeing his wife fully naked..." is beyond my comprehension. Although i had read about such absurdities, never occured that REALLY?? And, by an enlightened person. Things like that just cannot help but reveal the idiocy at all levels of Mormonisn.

While i'm on a role: "Victoria's Secrets" are a joke, to me! LOL! Like why cover any natural beauty with silly pieces of man-made red/black/pink/???
stuff? IF/WHEN a male needs such trappings to be arroused...HE AIN'T NO-MAN!! LOL!! Or, if a woman believes SHE needs "bits-and-pieces" to look alluring, they've bought into the "Merchants-Myth" NOT TRUE LADIES!! You's great where-is, as-is. :-)

Back to serious stuff, "...throwing up inbed..." on the floor, at the table, or any other imaginable place, might not have been a reality with You Huck. Lucky! Or, possibly a learning experience that you missed... However it is a part of peoples lives on every rung of the social ladder. Not just in Trailer Parks. "A-A" attends to them when/where/while Institutional Religion in effect ignored them. Huck, I hope we now understand each other better. I'd hate to lose a friend :-)

AS for SEX... IT IS THE GREATEST, MOST MISUNDERSTOOD OF ALL HUMAN SENSES! IT'S THERE TO BE ENJOYED. WHATEVER OTHER SENSES ONE MIGHT LACK...IT'S FREE BY THE GRACE OF "GOD" TO RICH AND POOR... IT EVEN MAKES BABIES! "WOW"!! AND, IF YER LONELY, AND DESOLATE...AMUSE YERSELF... Warm regards, Roger [/b]

[_charity]

And by way, successful sexual relations aren't because of "fit." Think about it. A woman can deliver a baby through the same place. Babies weigh on average about 8 pounds. That ought to make any man feel just a little. . . um. . . small.

Is this a joke, or do you really not understand what ric meant by "fit"?

I just thought BishopRic, being a jerk of a guy with the scuzzy acceptance of promiscuity, was handing out the standard line of a bunch of years ago. One of the standard sleeze lines, "You wouldn't buy a pair of shoes without knowing if they fit, would you?" And yes, those creeps meant physical fit.

By the way, he hasn't yet told me how many men he would have thought it was okay for his wife to try on. Any other guys out there willing to chime in?

[_Coggins7]

By the way, he hasn't yet told me how many men he would have thought it was okay for his wife to try on. Any other guys out there willing to chime in?

I don't know, but as long as they're luscious and frothy, his liberal voyeuristic instincts may demand open ended satiation.

[_Coggins7]

When you are called as my bishop, I'll be pleased to answer these. Until then, take a long walk off a short bridge.

Just as I thought. Same Scratch time, same Scratch channel.

[_Coggins7]

As you might know, critical thinking was/is not encouraged in LDSism.

And as we all know, you just stepped into a big steaming pile of holy high horsepie. You're claim here is a LIE, bespeaking no actual experience within LDS culture or its religion. Either that, or it is, in all charitableness, a claim made in abject ignorance, which is, in any case, still a form of intellectual dishonesty.

Try again, and this time aim for some credibility.

[_Jersey Girl]

By the way, he hasn't yet told me how many men he would have thought it was okay for his wife to try on. Any other guys out there willing to chime in?

I don't know, but as long as they're luscious and frothy, his liberal voyeuristic instincts may demand open ended satiation.

I'll say one thing for you. You can sure turn a phrase there, buddy!

[_beastie]

I'll say one thing for you. You can sure turn a phrase there, buddy!

And his enjoyment of the topic is obvious.

[_Tori]

And by way, successful sexual relations aren't because of "fit." Think about it. A woman can deliver a baby through the same place. Babies weigh on average about 8 pounds. That ought to make any man feel just a little. . . um. . . small.

Is this a joke, or do you really not understand what ric meant by "fit"?

I just thought BishopRic, being a jerk of a guy with the scuzzy acceptance of promiscuity, was handing out the standard line of a bunch of years ago. One of the standard sleeze lines, "You wouldn't buy a pair of shoes without knowing if they fit, would you?" And yes, those creeps meant physical fit.

By the way, he hasn't yet told me how many men he would have thought it was okay for his wife to try on. Any other guys out there willing to chime in?

And you perceive yourself to be a moral, faithful member?

I find your comments disgusting and pathetic, Charity.