Bokovoy: "Tornado Victims Deserved It!"

[_charity]

Tell me, Charity: do you think it is okay to make jokes about people whose lives have just been devastated by tornados? Did you yuk it up with your pals following 9-11 or Katrina? I sure hope not....

If you listen to Jay Leno or David Letterman, at least half of their jokes every night are at the expense of someone else, and often a named person. People occasionally make jokes at the expense of others.

It isn't always nice. But we all laugh. It isn't always our best selves. I didn't think 9-11 or Katrina were jokes. But it certainly isn't the big deal you are trying to make of it.

[_Enuma Elish]

How are we supposed to "pick up" on that, Dave? On the one hand, you are saying that my "interpretations" are way off, and etc., and on the other, you are claiming that your sentiments were obvious. Which is it? You claim that you're really sorry about what you said, and yet here you are doing spin work. DCP, it seems, has taught you well. Pretty soon you'll no doubt be saying that you "never said" that Southerners were being "punished by God."

True enough. I never did say that Southerners were being punished by God.

But you implied it, and when pressed on it, you opted to "plead the 5th." Again, I have to wonder: How sorry are you? It seems increasingly that, deep down, a part of you really relished the fact that all these "antis" were made to suffer.

You're right. My sarcastic comment did imply that I held that view, which is why I immediately corrected it in the subsequent post. How sorry am I? Well, sorry enough to issue a public apology both here and on the MAAD board. Not sorry enough to allow you to misrepresent my words, feelings, and intentions.

[Guest]

David, its ok, you can be pissed off. Didn't you call the Huckabee people "evil"?

Being upset is part of human nature. We accept you for being human, even if you feel your Mormon audience will look down on your for it. There is no need to downplay the obvious fact that you were pissed - at least not here.

By the way, your thread at MAD about how Romney lost because he was too good for all the nastiness that takes place in politics, made me want to puke, but I decided to laugh instead.

I came to an interesting conclusion the night I attended Mitt’s final rally in Boston and watched him speak.

I realized that though Mitt Romney is a brilliant man, Mitt is a bit naïve.

I realized that Mitt’s feelings had actually been hurt by the way that other Republican candidates had joined forces against him and by the use of dishonestly and some highly questionable if not out and out deceitful tactics manifested by some of his competitors seeking the nomination.

Believe it or not, I realized that dirty politics had really surprised Mitt Romney.

This may seem strange to some, but I believe that my assessment is accurate.

And I’ll tell you what. The fact that Mitt Romney is naïve enough to have believed that integrity and honesty were to be expected by those seeking the Republican nomination makes me love him all the more.

So maybe he’s not the best man to take over Washington DC.

So Romney:

1) is brilliant
2) is a bit naïve
3) is emotionally hurt
4) has been ganged up on
5) is a victim of dishonesty
6) is a victim of deceitful tactics
7) was completely taken by surprise by all this (yea right!)
8) naïve to believe his integrity and honesty would work
9) is truly loved by Bokovoy

Screw the Presidency, Mitt Romney for the next Jesus!!! All the parallels are there, minus a few nails and a wooden cross.

[_Mister Scratch]

How are we supposed to "pick up" on that, Dave? On the one hand, you are saying that my "interpretations" are way off, and etc., and on the other, you are claiming that your sentiments were obvious. Which is it? You claim that you're really sorry about what you said, and yet here you are doing spin work. DCP, it seems, has taught you well. Pretty soon you'll no doubt be saying that you "never said" that Southerners were being "punished by God."

True enough. I never did say that Southerners were being punished by God.

But you implied it, and when pressed on it, you opted to "plead the 5th." Again, I have to wonder: How sorry are you? It seems increasingly that, deep down, a part of you really relished the fact that all these "antis" were made to suffer.

You're right. My sarcastic comment did imply that I held that view, which is why I immediately corrected it in the subsequent post. How sorry am I? Well, sorry enough to issue a public apology both here and on the MAAD board. Not sorry enough to allow you to misrepresent my words, feelings, and intentions.

What on earth have I "misrepresented," David? I've tried very hard to get to the heart of this issue, and have been met with some rather strange and conflicting messages from you. Please feel free to cite specific examples.

[_Mister Scratch]

Tell me, Charity: do you think it is okay to make jokes about people whose lives have just been devastated by tornados? Did you yuk it up with your pals following 9-11 or Katrina? I sure hope not....

If you listen to Jay Leno or David Letterman, at least half of their jokes every night are at the expense of someone else, and often a named person. People occasionally make jokes at the expense of others.

It isn't always nice. But we all laugh. It isn't always our best selves. I didn't think 9-11 or Katrina were jokes. But it certainly isn't the big deal you are trying to make of it.

Gee whiz, charity. I'm sort of stunned to hear you admit you "laugh" at this kind of stuff. I guess you secretly harbor a lust for vengeance against the "antis" too, eh? See, you and David both claim that you don't secretly want vindication; but, when your actions say otherwise, what are people supposed to think?

[_charity]

Gee whiz, charity. I'm sort of stunned to hear you admit you "laugh" at this kind of stuff. I guess you secretly harbor a lust for vengeance against the "antis" too, eh? See, you and David both claim that you don't secretly want vindication; but, when your actions say otherwise, what are people supposed to think?

You are surprised that I find Jay Leno funny? Me and how many million others. I said I did not think 9-11 or Katrina were jokes. Or to be joked about.

But of course, that doesn't fit your agenda so you misrepresent what I said.

Come to think about it. What I really find unfunny is how you misrepresent what LDS posters say.

[_Enuma Elish]

What on earth have I "misrepresented," David? I've tried very hard to get to the heart of this issue, and have been met with some rather strange and conflicting messages from you. Please feel free to cite specific examples.

You've suggested that I said that God punished the South for voting against Romney, when in fact I never did say this, I made an inappropriate sarcastic comment that implied the view and then immediately posted both a correction and an apology.

You've also suggested that this sarcastic implication was of the same level as Richard's and Gibson's blatant racial slurs.

You've also questioned my sincerity, my feelings, and my original intent and in so doing have misrepresented these issues.

But, no worries. My sarcasm was wrong and I deserve a little public shaming. So, you and I can still be friends.

[_Enuma Elish]

David, its ok, you can be pissed off. Didn't you call the Huckabee people "evil"?

Being upset is part of human nature. We accept you for being human, even if you feel your Mormon audience will look down on your for it. There is no need to downplay the obvious fact that you were pissed - at least not here.

I have many flaws, including a propensity towards obsessive compulsive behavior, but in all honesty, Kevin, I don't get angry too often and I certainly wasn't angry when I made those posts, despite how it may appear.

Best.

[_Dr. Shades]

"Well, seeing as I went down to shake Mitt's hand and cheer for him when he cast his vote and my wife sat on the stage of his final rally (with me cheering from the crowd), given my current emotional attachment, better for right now to plea the fifth."

Kevin is incorrect, I am not a Democrat. I am politically independent. I consider myself somewhat of a socialist and I hold a variety of leftist political views.

Notwithstanding my own political perspectives which run counter to many conservative principles, I freely admit that I was quite emotionally tied to the Romney campaign.

Though I felt sad, the truth is that I never truly expected Mitt to win the primary and can't remember ever feeling any anger whatsoever regarding the outcome.

Holy cow, David! Next time I need my clothes to be clean, I'll simply drop them into your head.

• How on earth can you possibly "cheer" for anyone whose political principles vary so sharply from your own??
• How on earth can you be "emotionally tied" to the campaign of anyone whose political principles vary so sharply from your own??
• How on earth can you "feel sad" over the withdrawal from the race of someone who you never expected to win the primary anyway??

I truly hope you answer those questions, 'cause right now you're coming across as a walking mass of contradictions.

[_Enuma Elish]

Alright, one more post and then I've got to go to bed. It's 2:00 here and I've got 8:30 church.

Holy cow, David! Next time I need my clothes to be clean, I'll simply drop them into your head.

• How on earth can you possibly "cheer" for anyone whose political principles vary so sharply from your own??
• How on earth can you be "emotionally tied" to the campaign of anyone whose political principles vary so sharply from your own??
• How on earth can you "feel sad" over the withdrawal from the race of someone who you never expected to win the primary anyway??

I truly hope you answer those questions, 'cause right now you're coming across as a walking mass of contradictions.

You're not kidding! I really am a walking mass of political contradictions and it's been a bit frustrating. Right or wrong, my feelings were based upon the fact that I love and respect the Romney family rather than on political connections. I actually felt more comfortable with Mitt's earlier political views than with those he currently espouses.

In addition, I was also drawn to Mitt because of the way that I felt he was misrepresented by the media.

Also, I watched all of the Republican debates and felt that Mitt handled the dishonest attacks raised by his opponents with dignity and intelligence. I can't help but love the guy.

And I suppose, that sometimes, deep down in my heart, I would actually like to be a Republican and fit in with my family, and Church associates.

But now that my friendship with the Romneys and my respect for Mitt's personal qualities are no longer issues, I can go back to picking a candidate who more closely reflects my own political views.