Church discontinued polygamy "officially" in 1890?

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I used to misread the manifesto as officially discontinuing polygamy myself. The statement did not have the support of all the leading quorums. It was not as official as it looks at first glance. So for a time after the manifesto polygamy continued. I think FAIR Wiki has an article on the Manifesto that explains it beter than I can.


That is the correct answer. To think otherwise is just glossing over and skipping the context of the situation.
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Would it really make a difference to anybody if the Church started using the date of 1906 or 1910 or whatever instead of 1890? I mean, after you get over the thrill of knowing just a sliver more about polygamy than most other people in the Church, it doesn't mean that much.
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cinepro wrote:Would it really make a difference to anybody if the Church started using the date of 1906 or 1910 or whatever instead of 1890? I mean, after you get over the thrill of knowing just a sliver more about polygamy than most other people in the Church, it doesn't mean that much.


This is an excellent point. The trouble is, after how many years of saying "Polygamy 'officially' ended in 1890," it's going to be awfully hard for the Church to tack on the qualifier, "But Church authorities continued to practice it in secret."
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I think the smoot hearings made it obviously clear that it was not discontinued in 1890.
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cinepro wrote:Would it really make a difference to anybody if the Church started using the date of 1906 or 1910 or whatever instead of 1890? I mean, after you get over the thrill of knowing just a sliver more about polygamy than most other people in the Church, it doesn't mean that much.


The church expects me to be honest to receive a temple recommend. It expects the media to be accurate in reporting precisely who is practicing polygamy and their relationship or lack thereof with the church. Does it not seem strange, then, that the church knowingly states time and time again that the church ended the rpactice in 1890? Did bcspace and Dale not simply admit above that when the church says it "officially" ended polyamy in 1890, this was a false statement? I'm just bothered by what appears to be an indisputed (at least in this thread) point that the church is falsely stating the end to polygamy in order to avoid the controversy surrounding the fact that IT DID NOT END in 1890.

Honesty first? Or avoidance of questions first? It seems the latter on this one.
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cinepro wrote:Would it really make a difference to anybody if the Church started using the date of 1906 or 1910 or whatever instead of 1890? I mean, after you get over the thrill of knowing just a sliver more about polygamy than most other people in the Church, it doesn't mean that much.


Hi Cinepro,

I'm not quite sure what you mean about "getting over the thrill of knowing" whatever, but I don't think the point is the date.

The point is the deceptiveness of the church.

Over and over and over we observe the church portraying a false picture of reality. They use words very deliberately to distort truth without actually obvious lying, and then in some cases flat out lie.

Further, we see that in spite of the declaration to the world long ago suggesting the church stopped the practice of polygamy they clearly lied and did in fact continue.

For some of us, it is disturbing for a church who claims to value honesty, and requires it of members, to be so blatantly dishonest.

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truth dancer wrote:
cinepro wrote:Would it really make a difference to anybody if the Church started using the date of 1906 or 1910 or whatever instead of 1890? I mean, after you get over the thrill of knowing just a sliver more about polygamy than most other people in the Church, it doesn't mean that much.


I'm not quite sure what you mean about "getting over the thrill of knowing" whatever, but I don't think the point is the date.

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I wondered the same thing, but I figured it must have been a thrill for him to learn about post-manifesto polygamy. To each his own. It certainly wasn't thrilling to me.
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The other misleading factor in this is that the Church has NOT discontinued the practice of polygamy. Polygamous sealings happen all the time.
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Scottie wrote:The other misleading factor in this is that the Church has NOT discontinued the practice of polygamy. Polygamous sealings happen all the time.


Exactly Scottie... Good point!

The church still believes in polygamy, holds it as doctrine, teaches it as truth, finds it in their scriptures, and does indeed continue to practice it albeit in a moderated form.
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