Gadianton wrote:What made Hendrix so great? His music wasn't that technical, and it's played loose and sloppy. Hendrix, like Tal was a good songwriter, that's all. Believe it or not, there is talent behind pop music. It's much easier to impress people with anything dark, heavy, or with a lot of dissonance. To come up with something really catchy takes talent. Believe it or not, even Brittney Spears has talent, a lot more than she's given credit for. And er, the artist formaly knows as Prince is easily, in my opinion, equal to Hendrix.
He was only a revolutionary and seminal figure in modern music. Sheesh!
Would he be if he hadn't died though?
Death tends to be quite the career booster, it seems to me.
(FYI: I think Jimmy's pretty decent too - I'm just throwing this out there).
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Tal Bachman wrote:I can't stomach country music. I like the old stuff - Patsy Cline, Hank, Willie. I can't stomach most of the contemporary stuff.
Ah. Another music snob. Nevermind.
You're a music snob if you don't like country?
ROTFLMAO
That's funny on a few levels.
Indeed. Especially since contemporary country is a marriage between pop and traditional country western. And when rock stars like Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow release a successful country song, ya hafta wonder what the world is coming to... right?
Tal Bachman wrote:I can't stomach country music. I like the old stuff - Patsy Cline, Hank, Willie. I can't stomach most of the contemporary stuff.
Ah. Another music snob. Nevermind.
You're a music snob if you don't like country?
ROTFLMAO
That's funny on a few levels.
Indeed. Especially since contemporary country is a marriage between pop and traditional country western. And when rock stars like Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow release a successful country song, ya hafta wonder what the world is coming to... right?
I'm not familiar with Kid Rock, but I wouldn't call Sheryl Crow a rock star. Pop star, sure, but certainly not rock.
Not sure what that has to do with the automatic assumption that if you don't like country, you're a music snob. What if you don't like rap or classical? Are you a snob then too?
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Some Schmo wrote:I'm not familiar with Kid Rock, but I wouldn't call Sheryl Crow a rock star. Pop star, sure, but certainly not rock.
What planet did you say you live on?
Not sure what that has to do with the automatic assumption that if you don't like country, you're a music snob. What if you don't like rap or classical? Are you a snob then too?
It was a dig at LOAP. And a little dig at Tal. Personally, I have an eclectric collection and do not limit myself to a specific genre. Heck, I have Ozzie Osbourne right next to Garth Brooks.
Some Schmo wrote:I'm not familiar with Kid Rock, but I wouldn't call Sheryl Crow a rock star. Pop star, sure, but certainly not rock.
What planet did you say you live on?
And your specific contention is...?
harmony wrote:
Not sure what that has to do with the automatic assumption that if you don't like country, you're a music snob. What if you don't like rap or classical? Are you a snob then too?
It was a dig at LOAP. And a little dig at Tal. Personally, I have an eclectric collection and do not limit myself to a specific genre. Heck, I have Ozzie Osbourne right next to Garth Brooks.
Why the venom toward Tal? Jealous?
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Gadianton wrote:What made Hendrix so great? His music wasn't that technical, and it's played loose and sloppy. Hendrix, like Tal was a good songwriter, that's all. Believe it or not, there is talent behind pop music. It's much easier to impress people with anything dark, heavy, or with a lot of dissonance. To come up with something really catchy takes talent. Believe it or not, even Brittney Spears has talent, a lot more than she's given credit for. And er, the artist formaly knows as Prince is easily, in my opinion, equal to Hendrix.
He was only a revolutionary and seminal figure in modern music. Sheesh!
Would he be if he hadn't died though?
Death tends to be quite the career booster, it seems to me.
(FYI: I think Jimmy's pretty decent too - I'm just throwing this out there).
Good point. I'm not Knocking Hendrix, but I question the depth of LoP's consideration on this issue. It's very easy to say some popular hit sucks because the Beatles or Jimmy Hendrix were better. In fact, though he didn't win the award, as Trever points out he's considered a revolutionary music figure today, and that makes him popular so I think we can say he sucks now.
Had Hendrix been born twenty years early or later, or in another part of the world, would he be considered a revolutionary musician? It's tough to say. As there is luck in getting a single hit worldwide popularity, there is also luck in being the guy who had the talent and personality and perhaps as Schmo points out, a short enough life span, who happened to be in the right place at the right time.
Some Schmo wrote:I'm not familiar with Kid Rock, but I wouldn't call Sheryl Crow a rock star. Pop star, sure, but certainly not rock.
What planet did you say you live on?
And your specific contention is...?
That you and I do not share the same definition of rock.
harmony wrote:
Not sure what that has to do with the automatic assumption that if you don't like country, you're a music snob. What if you don't like rap or classical? Are you a snob then too?
It was a dig at LOAP. And a little dig at Tal. Personally, I have an eclectric collection and do not limit myself to a specific genre. Heck, I have Ozzie Osbourne right next to Garth Brooks.
Why the venom toward Tal? Jealous?
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Just a suggestion of a part of the music industry that is growing, rather than shrinking. He appears to think he's too high to give it a shot though. Can't say I'm surprised.
This discussion seems locked into loyalty to party. I guess its political season.
I was puzzled reading backward by the minoring Jimis talent. then I found Jimis talent was mentioned first by the LDS loyal party so it had to be dissed.
I am quite sure that talent cannot be fit to a sure measure like air temperature. ( Jimi 99 degrees, Jefferson airplane 70) Being a music snob I trust Miles Davis opinion that Jimi was talented and important. Davis understood 20 c music. However I was amused by the notion that death improved Jimis reputation. I cannot imagine the opiner was there for the event. If you were there then, you know that the world of music divides between before Are You Experienced and after. Like it or not the music world changed and cannot go back. Few indeed are the people who do that. But there are all different kinds of accomplishments. There are quite a few other musicians I enjoy more. death ended Jimis when he was still young noisy and stupid. too bad. He was immensly talented. His reputation has shrunk steadly since his death. If you know him now you have a clue to his initial impact.
I am astonished at the mean impoverished reactions to Tals comments. I sort of remember there may be reason LDS entheusiast could be holding a grudge. The rest of us???? I can only imagine that some people hold their favorite authority as being above question. If someone like Tal questions an idea of said authority it is not an opening to discussion but instead blasphemy. We hear a bombardment of qustions of Tal authority. Has he been properly ordained to question somebody like whats his ?
I have noticed that Mormons really hate to have their special authorities questioned. Its always personal. But should exmormon be the same? Qustion Dawkins, call out the church court.
I have been stuck thinking this kneejerk authority dependancy might be an illustration of the meme thing which I am inclined to otherwise question. Perhaps like a lot of questionable ideas, memes must be thought of as an idea with strenghts as well as shortcomings.
huckelberry wrote:I have noticed that Mormons really hate to have their special authorities questioned. Its always personal. But should exmormon be the same? Qustion Dawkins, call out the church court.
I have been stuck thinking this kneejerk authority dependancy might be an illustration of the meme thing which I am inclined to otherwise question. Perhaps like a lot of questionable ideas, memes must be thought of as an idea with strenghts as well as shortcomings.
Well said.
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