ajax18 wrote:I do not know of any feminist who thinks there is some need or reason for restitution or retaliation because of the treatment of women over the past five thousand years.
Affirmative action seems to me to try to compensate for past racial and gender inequalities. I mentioned the divorce law I read as a law student. It left even the most liberal men in the class just shaking their heads as they read the cases and the precedents that were set.
Goodness, but your youth is showing. If you'd lived through the 50's and the 60's, you'd know exactly what AA was designed to address. It's certainly not a perfect system, and it wasn't perfect when it started out, but it's a whole lot better than the legalized discrimination that took place prior to its inception. All it did was level the economic playing field, by giving an incentive to hire or rent to minorities. It didn't preclude hiring or renting to a white male, it just made it so that wasn't the automatic assumption. Of course some white males see that as infringing on their power. Oh well. Put the shoe on the other foot... you don't like it when you get stuck in family court. You get pissed off and frustrated. Well, now you know what it feels like to be a woman, or black, or brown, or red.
And like I said in repsonse to the original post. I don't think it's fair that Mormon culture girls go out to college and it's a big party or adventure, while the men know it comes down to them to ultimately go to work.
Like young men in Mormon culture don't party? That is so bogus, it defies comment.
It seems to me that the women I've talked to think they should have the choice (and complete autonomy in the decision) to go to work or stay with their children whenever they want.
You don't know much about LDS women's lives, do you? Women don't have any choices; being a mom is what we do, or else we face overt and covert criticism every day of our lives. At least men can choose what they do when they go to work, they can be engineers, or welders, or teachers, or whatever. LDS women can choose to be mothers, period. Any other choice is unacceptable. The only unacceptable choice for LDS men is to not work at all (which is an unacceptable choice within the larger society too).
Yet the man must go to work and if he doesn't make enough money, the judge may tell him to get a better job. Yes it happened. My best friend is an illegitimate child with no parental help. He graduated college in chemistry, but there aren't many jobs around undergrad chemists. Times were not good. So we worked at WalMart together in the Vision center, me for the experience, him because that was the best he could get. We earned roughly $1200 a month. He may have been earning as much as $1400 a month since he had been there a while.
His wife went to court and had his child support raised from $200 a month to $800 a month. Now he can't even pay his rent, let alone buy food. Her new man makes up to $30/hr., but welders don't always have steady work, and sometimes he's learned that it pays not to go. Of course she won't even consider working even though her twin daughters are now in 2nd grade. Why would she? Minimum wage jobs suck. But somebody's got to do it. Could my friend have won custody of the children? Absolutely not, the judge would not even consider it. Is that fair?
Anecdotal, and worth every penny... to someone who cares. We've all go stories like that, on both sides of the coin. My sis was divorced and her ex-husband never paid her a dime for their 2 kids. He quit his job and would move, rather than pay child support. Judges do the best they can; they aren't perfect and they certainly don't have God-like discernment.
Title IX. Another case of current inequality as a means of redressing past inequality. Now they want to take our sports away. Not all girls are interested in sports, but most boys are. Perhaps we should say equal money should be spent on boys and girls activities, but to say that equal money should be spent on boys and girls sports is simply unfair.
This is horse pucky. You might want to do some research before you spout off. I grew up prior to Title IX; there were
no girls sports at all.
ALL the money was spent on boys, and the girls had GAA, if we were lucky (Girls Athletic Asso), where we could have play days on a few Saturdays a year. Whoopdedo. There were no professional women's sports back then. Now, thanks to Title IX, girls have an equal shot at playing sports. You remember the Nike ad of several years ago? "If you let me play sports, I'll be less likely to drop out of school. If you let me play sports, I'll be less likely to get breast cancer. If you let me play sports, .... etc.) That's backed by solid research. My daughter is a coach for a girl's softball team in the spring. Her team is made up entirely of Latino and African American girls
who would never get to play without Title IX. During the summer, she coaches in a rec league. She pays the fee, because her girls come from very disadvantaged homes. Without Title IX, they wouldn't know how to play. She's so proud because 5 of her girls got to play on the high school JV team this year. A first from her middle school.
Do you have any idea how important it is to those girls that Title IX exists???
Good grief, man. Pull your head out of your butt!