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_Buckeye
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Canucklehead wrote:Buckeye (or one of the mods), could you please edit your link so that it doesn't...
... extend past the normal width of the page?
It causes all of the posts on this page to become extremely...
...wide, making any would-be reader engage in intolerable horizontal scrolling.

Thank you.


I tried to shrink it down. I still haven't figured out how to post a link here without posting the actual url address.
And inasmuch as my people shall assemble themselves at the Ohio, I have kept in store a blessing such as is not known among the children of men, and it shall be poured forth upon their heads. And from thence men shall go forth into all nations.

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Post by _the road to hana »

Buckeye wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:Buckeye (or one of the mods), could you please edit your link so that it doesn't...
... extend past the normal width of the page?
It causes all of the posts on this page to become extremely...
...wide, making any would-be reader engage in intolerable horizontal scrolling.

Thank you.


I tried to shrink it down. I still haven't figured out how to post a link here without posting the actual url address.



I'll try to help, since I've had to learn this by trial and error myself.

When typing a post or a response, as I am now, look to the top of the box where there are links to click, including one for bold, italic, underline, quote, code, list, list=, img, and URL.

Hovering over the URL box will show you two options for inserting URL links. The second one is the one you want to do, particularly for a longer link. It goes like this:

[url=TYPE LINK ADDRESS HERE]Type words to describe link here[/url]

So an example of that would be Mormon Discussions

If you're not sure, go into the quote function of someone else's post, like this one, to see how it looks in code.

Hopefully that will help.
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Re: The church does hold one and it is valid

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Buckeye wrote:Filed for in 2002. Registration published in 2004. Owned by the Church's IP subsidiary, Intellectual Reserve, Inc.



Those Canadians should have snatched up the rights back when Joseph Smith was selling it. Of course, the rest of us should have bought Microsoft at $21 a share.
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Post by _Sethbag »

rcrocket wrote:The Church does not hold a copyright on "The Book of Mormon". It expired long ago.

The Church holds a copyright on the 1981 version of the Book of Mormon, with its commentary and footnotes and changes.

Grant Hardy recently published a very good Reader's Edition of the Book of Mormon. He didn't need the Church's permission to do so; he used the 1921 text.


I didn't say, and I don't know if anyone said, that the church has a copyright on the Book of Mormon, although they would, as you say, have a copyright on any editions published after a particular date. The LDS Church does, however, have a trademark on the term "Book of Mormon". I don't think they should have this trademark.
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Post by _ludwigm »

What about the Bible? Versions, languages, comments etc. Is it (are they) copyrighted?

Are there another stupid groups who protect their scriptures this way? Up to now I know only one : the scientologists...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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ludwigm wrote:What about the Bible? Versions, languages, comments etc. Is it (are they) copyrighted?

Are there another stupid groups who protect their scriptures this way? Up to now I know only one : the scientologists...


Anyone can take the Bible and come up with their own translation and whatnot of it and publish it, and it will be copyrighted.

I could take the 1921 Book of Mormon and produce my own version of it with my own commentary or whatever and copyright it.
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Post by _ludwigm »

That is it. If I make another ".hu" version of the Bible, I want to spread it, to download it, to copy it, (or to sell it ...) as many unit as it can be. To balk the spreading in any way (copyright) - it makes no sense for me.







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- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Post by _Buckeye »

Sethbag wrote:
rcrocket wrote:The Church does not hold a copyright on "The Book of Mormon". It expired long ago.

The Church holds a copyright on the 1981 version of the Book of Mormon, with its commentary and footnotes and changes.

Grant Hardy recently published a very good Reader's Edition of the Book of Mormon. He didn't need the Church's permission to do so; he used the 1921 text.


I didn't say, and I don't know if anyone said, that the church has a copyright on the Book of Mormon, although they would, as you say, have a copyright on any editions published after a particular date. The LDS Church does, however, have a trademark on the term "Book of Mormon". I don't think they should have this trademark.


Then put your money where your mouth is and file an opposition. http://tess2.uspto.gov/tmdb/tmep/1500.htm#_T1503. The fact that the trademark office took over two years to grant the mark says to me that the office seriously vetted whether the church has rights to the mark. If you think they got it wrong, you can always file a challenge.
And inasmuch as my people shall assemble themselves at the Ohio, I have kept in store a blessing such as is not known among the children of men, and it shall be poured forth upon their heads. And from thence men shall go forth into all nations.

Doctrine & Covenants 39:15.
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Post by _truth dancer »

Not sure if Willy Jessop (FLDS lawyer) is purposely trying to aggravate the Brethren but his discussion centered on the FLDS last night on Larry King was pretty wild.

There was a discussion on why Mormons are persecuted and Jessop elaborated on how it all started during the time of Joseph Smith. He talked about the Nauvoo days, early Mommon history, and how there was an extermination order against them in Illinois so they left for Utah.

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Post by _Droopy »

First, of course the doctrine is not in the Book of Mormon but in the D&C, nevertheless, it was startling to hear, given how hard the LDS church is trying to distance themselves from any relationship to the FLDS.


That what one might call a "cake walk", as there is no connection whatever except the most tenuous historical one (schism from the main religious body). The FLDS are not "Mormons", and have actually rejected much of its central concepts (not the least of which is Priesthood authority and following the prophets) and the polygamy they practices is not understood to be that accepted of the Lord. Indeed, what the FLDS have done to the LDS concept of plural marriage is similar to what Pentecostal's have done to the glossolalia: made in a fetish.


I do think it won't be long before the news finds out that the LDS does indeed have polygamy right in their scriptures...


Yes they do, including the Old Testament.
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