The true order of prayer

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_Mike Reed
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Re: The true order of prayer

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Scottie wrote:
solomarineris wrote:Do you recall actual wording of it? As I remember not everyone participated. It was likea Pow-Wow circle and they did circulate an object between, kinda, medicine bag?
Hell, if I remember, it's been over 30yrs...

I don't ever remember passing any objects.

There's no passing around an object. The group circles the representative giving the prayer, and he holds (places his hands on) the names of the "sick and afflicted" being prayed for.
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Re: The true order of prayer

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KimberlyAnn wrote:The prayers didn't do me much good...

Yet.......
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I was always taught repetitious, memorized prayers, (like what the Catholics do) are wrong.
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SatanWasSetUp wrote:I was always taught repetitious, memorized prayers, (like what the Catholics do) are wrong.

The prayer circle isn't memorized.

The chant at the beginning is, but the actual prayer isn't.
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Scottie wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:I was always taught repetitious, memorized prayers, (like what the Catholics do) are wrong.

The prayer circle isn't memorized.

The chant at the beginning is, but the actual prayer isn't.

It's not rote, but it is repetitious. I have been in the prayer circle many times, and they're usually very similar. It's sort of like the blessing on the food that so many Mormons give. It's not rote, but it may as well be.
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Why is the true order of prayer only practiced in the temple???

Why don't LDS use the TOoP in their everyday lives? Wouldn't it seem that God would prefer those prayers rather than the standard prayers?

Also, does God listen to those prayers more intently than a regular prayer?


The Temple is like the Superman's Fortress of Solitude. While Superman could have direct communication with his father in special circumstances outside the FoS (i.e. when turning back time), the FoS was a special place set aside with supernatural powers that would allow him to have special communication. And the very act of going to the North Pole prepared him for that communication in a way that wouldn't have been possible had he had a green crystal sitting in his apartment in Metropolis.

Likewise, the act of going to the Temple and being apart from the world prepares us for the clothing and experiences there. If we were to dress or act that way in the "outside" world, our minds would probably be preoccupied with other thoughts (and if non-Temple goers were around, crippling embarrassment) and we wouldn't be able to get the revelation we need.
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Post by _moksha »

John Larsen wrote:That's because the false order of prayer is just as effective in getting results.


It would be sad if God did get hung up on unimportant list order when there is so much going on in the Universe.
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Re: The true order of prayer

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KimberlyAnn wrote:
Scottie wrote:
solomarineris wrote:Do you recall actual wording of it? As I remember not everyone participated. It was likea Pow-Wow circle and they did circulate an object between, kinda, medicine bag?
Hell, if I remember, it's been over 30yrs...

I don't ever remember passing any objects.

I never passed anything around, but we did have a little bag of names over which we prayed. The names were submitted by members. I know my name was turned in for prayer after I lost my testimony. The prayers didn't do me much good...
KA


I stand to be corrected, there was probably an envelope
as for
prayers didn't do me much good
...,
they should try putting Virgin Mary Statue in the middle of table.
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An Almost Forgotten History

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Sorry to show up late to the discussion.

Check out the 'Almost Forgotten History' section of this article:

http://www.whymormons.net/2008/03/true- ... rayer.html
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