Moniker wrote:Sure, yet, it doesn't mean you'll be compatible.
I think it's more likely you will be.
I think confronting the huge challenge of facing the world together in the beginning is great and will lead you to love each other. I am more likely to fall in love with a girl I climb a mountain with then one I hang out by the pool with.
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Moniker wrote:Sure, yet, it doesn't mean you'll be compatible.
I think it's more likely you will be.
I think confronting the huge challenge of facing the world together in the beginning is great and will lead you to love each other. I am more likely to fall in love with a girl I climb a mountain with then one I hang out by the pool with.
Well, statistics say the precise opposite of this, Nehor. That most marriages end within the first 10 years because of finances (the number one thing most couples argue about) and the stress of having children! You combine those two and it's a disaster in the making, really.
Abstracted by David Schramm Utah State University, Department of Family and Human Development, Logan Utah
Have you ever wondered what the status of marriage is in Utah? Do you know what Utah's divorce rate is? The following information, taken from a report by the Center for Health Data, Office of Vital Records and Statistics entitled, "Utahs Vital Statistics: Marriages and Divorces 1999-2000" gives a variety of marriage and divorce statistics for Utah during the year 2000.
* Utah's estimated midyear population in 2000 was 2,246,554. * There were 23,896 marriages that took place and 9,604 divorces granted. * Utah's marriage rate is 10.6 per 1,000 populations, well above that of the United States, which stands at 8.7. * Utah's divorce rate is 4.3 per 1,000 populations, slightly higher than the United States divorce rate of 4.1. * Of the 23,896 marriages that took place in Utah, 17,330 (72.5%) were first marriages for both bride and groom, while 6,325 (26.5%) of them were remarriages for the bride or groom. * Median age at first marriage in Utah - Groom: 23 Bride: 21 Median age at first marriage in United States - Groom: 26.8 Bride: 25.1 * In Utah, 77% of the marriages are performed by a religious officiant compared to 23% performed by a civil officiant. Moreover, 66% of all marriages in Utah are performed by an LDS officiant. * 60% of brides in first marriages have had at least one or more years of college. * 17.6% of the brides married in the year 2000 were less than 20 years old.
Divorce in Utah
* Median age at divorce in Utah for first marriages: Husband: 31 Wife:29 * There were 10,600 children involved in a divorce in Utah in the year 2000. * 18% of divorces in Utah occur in the first year of marriage (before the couple celebrates their first anniversary) * 50% of the divorces in Utah occur within the first 5 years of marriage and 70% by 10 years of marriage. * In the United States, roughly 20% of first marriages end within the first 5 years of marriage, and approximately 33% end within the first 10 years.
Yep, and only the strong survive. No problem with that here.
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The Nehor wrote:Yep, and only the strong survive. No problem with that here.
Oh, no problem with the kids? I thought this was all for the good of the kids, Nehor? Struggling parents make great parents and marriage partners. Right?
Now, what percentage of these marriages and divorces are LDS?
Second, what is the divorce rate for LDS who marry in the Temple?
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Droopy wrote:Now, what percentage of these marriages and divorces are LDS?
Second, what is the divorce rate for LDS who marry in the Temple?
I have heard varying stats. If I recall it was about 7% in the 80s but had increased. I think last I heard was pretty low still, somewhere in the teens.
Interestingly with all the criticism of active LDS marrying young their marriages are remarkably successful and seem to have staying power. Also, economically, many of these young marriages that also include having kids along the way, are fairly sound and stable. This is at least my experience with this.
I don't think that family hardships are a bad thing for kids, unless it causes the parents to fight excessively. Money does not make a happy family.
I also think that we live in a VERY "me" based society. If people were more concerned about their partner and less concerned about themselves, then yes, I believe a couple can grow closer as they age, not apart.
I'm not sure that we don't change every decade or so. As I'm only 35, I can only say that I am quite a different person now than I was in my mid 20's. Can some of you that have lived a few decades speak to this? Are you a different person at 20 than you are at 30, and are you different at 40 than you were at 30, etc?
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Pg. 51:
You can see the majority of marriages in the state (residents of Utah) are officiated by LDS. Year 1999:
12987are LDS. Catholic 182. Jewish 3. Protestant 1879. And other religion 28.
Pg 50:
Bride 2nd marriages after divorce: 48 Catholic. 2 Jewish. 2494 LDS. 715 Protestant. 22 other religion.
Groom 2nd marriages after divorce: 47 Catholic. 0 Jewish. 2557 LDS. 720 Protestant. 9 other religion.
If the majority of people marrying in Utah are LDS it doesn't follow that the minuscule number out of the other religions are the only ones getting divorced.
Pg. 51: You can see the majority of marriages in the state (residents of Utah) are officiated by LDS. Year 1999:
12987are LDS. Catholic 182. Jewish 3. Protestant 1879. And other religion 28.
Pg 50: Bride 2nd marriages after divorce: 48 Catholic. 2 Jewish. 2494 LDS. 715 Protestant. 22 other religion.
Groom 2nd marriages after divorce: 47 Catholic. 0 Jewish. 2557 LDS. 720 Protestant. 9 other religion.
If the majority of people marrying in Utah are LDS it doesn't follow that the minuscule number out of the other religions are the only ones getting divorced.
7% for LDS married in the Temple, or perhaps in the teens. Ultra low relative to the surrounding culture.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Scottie wrote:I don't think that family hardships are a bad thing for kids, unless it causes the parents to fight excessively. Money does not make a happy family.
I also think that we live in a VERY "me" based society. If people were more concerned about their partner and less concerned about themselves, then yes, I believe a couple can grow closer as they age, not apart.
I'm not sure that we don't change every decade or so. As I'm only 35, I can only say that I am quite a different person now than I was in my mid 20's. Can some of you that have lived a few decades speak to this? Are you a different person at 20 than you are at 30, and are you different at 40 than you were at 30, etc?
Money makes life easier. It just does. It doesn't make one happy, necessarily, yet, poverty is not a happiness maker either for the most part.
I think it is terrible advice to tell young men and women to get married and start having kids. Matter of fact I think this is why lots of those that grew up in the Church, when they leave, sort of act like teenagers -- they didn't get to sow their wild oats, didn't get to do the partying, etc... and get it out of their system so they go a bit wild in their 30's and 40's. Young people should be allowed to be young people and not stuck into a role that they're not mentally prepared for, imho.
I'm a COMPLETELY different person now than I was in my 20's.