You need to be a Right-Wing Conservative to be a Mormon?

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I don't seem to recall Jesus comforting the sick by telling them that things would be better when they were dead.


I wonder who he told the parable of the beggar and Lazarus to then. A lot of people weren't healed, including Jesus Himself.
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Droopy wrote:
What Jesus started, or more specifically what his cult followers started several hundred years after his supposed existence, was a movement modeled around shared resources. I am sorry your inability to visualize this concept without invoking a Mcarthyesque interpretation has affected your mental capacity. I am sure there are other Memes behaving similarly on your life.

Jesus was a hippie. A dirty stinking hippie.



Beyond the fact that I really should not be engaging you in the first place, could you please provide some Biblical texts that support your contention that the movement Jesus started was "modeled around shared resources"? Capitalism (as it is called), as practiced in a free market economic order under the rule of law, is predicated upon precisely the same principles, so what kind of distinction are you trying to make here?

Your use of McCarthy here demonstrates, yet again, the fantastic diminution of the modern intellect in the age of "information".


Sure, as soon as you provide proof that Jesus even existed, outside of the fantasy world you have bought into.

Still indebted to the company store, eh? Don't worry. Maybe your family can work off your indentured servitude to the coal company someday.
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What's hilarious is that these assholes are practicing Socialists.

They cede over a MANDATED percentage to a centralized authority figure that then redistributes their wealth with no accountability to them. They have socialized chapel halls, malls, temples, welfare centers, overhead, and missionary programs. Lol... They're such damned dicks. They yammer on about how evil Socialism is while not understanding that they're practicing it.

You cannot be a "Rightist" and a Mormon because a "Rightist" rejects the social policies of any governing authority... That would include how the Mormon church operates on every level. Crazy...
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I'll let you try to figure out the difference with your highly evolved and affluent city intellect.

Were past that point. Its time for you to play catchup and learn from others instead of dictating from your lower economic status.

While you may enjoy the fact that ethnic slurs against WV is socially acceptable and deemed as morally upright by the left, you may consider this the next time you wonder why the Democrats lost in one of the poorest, labor union run states in the U.S.A in our last election.


Ethnic slurs? I know that WV is backwater but Geez, classification of WV as a separate ethnicity? Looks like someone is speaking above their station.

Run along and play now, leave the heavy thinking to the more erudite. There is a reason the genetic gene pool is a little cloudy in WV. Also see this fact as evidence as to why the state has consistently gone the hard line republican route.
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antishock8 wrote:What's hilarious is that these assholes are practicing Socialists.

They cede over a MANDATED percentage to a centralized authority figure that then redistributes their wealth with no accountability to them. They have socialized chapel halls, malls, temples, welfare centers, overhead, and missionary programs. Lol... They're such f*****g dicks. They yammer on about how evil Socialism is while not understanding that they're practicing it.

You cannot be a "Rightist" and a Mormon because a "Rightist" rejects the social policies of any governing authority... That would include how the Mormon church operates on every level. Crazy...



I'm absolutely tempted to offer to pay someone handsomely if they can figure this out.
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Droopy wrote:
antishock8 wrote:What's hilarious is that these assholes are practicing Socialists.

They cede over a MANDATED percentage to a centralized authority figure that then redistributes their wealth with no accountability to them. They have socialized chapel halls, malls, temples, welfare centers, overhead, and missionary programs. Lol... They're such f*****g dicks. They yammer on about how evil Socialism is while not understanding that they're practicing it.

You cannot be a "Rightist" and a Mormon because a "Rightist" rejects the social policies of any governing authority... That would include how the Mormon church operates on every level. Crazy...



I'm absolutely tempted to offer to pay someone handsomely if they can figure this out.


The LDS church operates and has operated in the past like a socialist governement.
I think Joseph Smith original plans for the early church members were very socialist.

Pay up. (and no, I don't take cans)
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Sure, as soon as you provide proof that Jesus even existed, outside of the fantasy world you have bought into.



Yet again, Merc places himself in the corner sporting a prominent dunce cap. Few biblical scholars, including many of the most secular, deny the existence of the man Jesus.

This is more American Atheists navel gazing, not a serious claim.
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GoodK wrote:
The LDS church operates and has operated in the past like a socialist government.
I think Joseph Smith original plans for the early church members were very socialist.



Good point. Folks were into sharing and taking care of one another. Not hoarding capital.
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Post by _ludwigm »

moksha wrote:
GoodK wrote:The LDS church operates and has operated in the past like a socialist government.
I think Joseph Smith original plans for the early church members were very socialist.
Good point. Folks were into sharing and taking care of one another. Not hoarding capital.

In some area, it operates now as such. Socialist people (=members of THE)
- hold the leaders as gods on earth
- agree with everything what come from The Comrades (=The Brethren).
- parrot The Scriptures without understanding (even they don't exist in written form, only as folklor)
- when asked, answer the required mantra, not the fact
- lie, to be evaluated as a loyal one (people must show more and much more loyalty)
- shout - or sing - the actual shibboleth
- believe that leaders and common people are equal (see Animal Farm; some animals are more equal ... )

I have been there, I have done that.
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The LDS church operates and has operated in the past like a socialist governement.
I think Joseph Smith original plans for the early church members were very socialist.



The very fact that people like you and Moksha think you can get away with telling intellectually vacuous whoppers such as this literally takes one's breath away. If anything, the Church could probably be described as a communitarian Republic. Socialism denies agency and seeks to coerce human happiness through social architecture, while all things are done by common consent in the Chruch. The Church teaches true principles, and allows us to govern ourselves. Socialism meddles, controls, and dictates as many aspects of the lives of its subjects as possible.

Further, Socialism seeks equality of condition. The Gospel operates under the principles of the law of the harvest. The Gospel is much more concerned with quality (Be ye perfect, be ye holy etc.) than equality (except in the sense of equality under the law: all of us are equal in God's eyes as to our fundamental worth, and all subject to the same Gospel laws in the same manner, despite any other distinguishing characteristics in this life).
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

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I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
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